Barotrauma 潜渊症

Barotrauma 潜渊症

11-iv3, the drone mothership
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Moon-Shadow 2024 年 3 月 1 日 上午 11:38 
If repairs were to be made, they would only take damage from enemies, not from water over time like this one.
Moon-Shadow 2024 年 3 月 1 日 上午 11:37 
I would make a drone based submarine at some point, but that would be single and multiplayer capable as 1 submarine.

But that would use 2 periscopes per drone. / That with all Drones.

Periscope 1, which enables the control and is not there for bots, depending on how the magnet system works, a function on the periscope to lock into the magnet system with a light next to the periscope indicating it is on.

Periscope 2 , The weapon that bots can also use, depending on how ammunition can be connected to drones try ammunition in the submarine and used by the drone as if it were on board the drone. / So a railgun would also work because it has little ammunition and bots shoot at everything.

Energy for drones infinite as with the "Relic" mod drone. / No repair, but as a disadvantage slow driving so that it is only as mobile turrets, since drones can also be pushed by enemies, slow ones are also a challenge to use for further away.
Me_Myself_Justice 2024 年 3 月 1 日 上午 5:08 
Keep in mind that using Abyssfly - DB 101 (or Death Blossom) main utility will anihilate both your target and your ship if you are convenient enough to use it closer that 500m from your sub)
SpitefullOblivion 2023 年 10 月 17 日 下午 11:45 
this is an amazing mod set, can i contact you privately in regards to a few questions i have regarding the drones and some thoughts i need a personal opinion on?
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 7:02 
And then many tend to not write anything either.

I have modified a submarine that is from someone else who I also asked about his submarine who also only told me how it works, what the texts mean, but never confirmed separately whether I can upload it, which is something everyone doesn't care about as long as something is not passed off as their own or is one to one the same.

But the original has a cumbersome control system, mine no longer does.

I made 3 versions of it as 1 download , version 3 contains a drone, one make who made it for others that anyone can use.

115 have viewed it , 15 subscribers , 3 favourites. ( Now after almost 1 month. )

With 0 comments.

And the Good Friend who helped me make pictures , and customize text , has subscribed too , only he doesn't have the game yet.

And I made the submarine primary for me, and public for all who like small submarines.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 6:46 
If you had made a single player version, someone would have already asked for a multiplayer version, as is the case with some other single player compatible submarines.

For multiplayer based submarines, rarely do people ask if there will be a single player version, usually it's not worth asking if a sub has lots of drone or shuttles, but hardly any turrets.

Comments are mostly just , here what doesn't work , how do the shuttles or drones work , and every now and then nice submarine , rarely does anyone ask if other versions of it could still be made so single player to multiplayer or vice versa or other class.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 6:38 
Small submarines are also not so popular when they have only 2 turrets.

Popular when both weapons can be controlled at the same time, less popular when it is a switch system and only one weapon can be controlled.

Many want medium to large submarines, but they should not be too large.

Dugong is still considered medium , anything smaller than a Dugong is considered small , anything almost twice as big is then big , and really twice as long and 4 or 5 stories and it is becoming more popular for multiplayer and less for single player because it becomes cumbersome when playing alone.

Powerful armour and lots of turrets, it becomes more popular only for those who want the game to be easier, and less interesting for everyone else who wants balance.

And many like drones, but bots can't handle drones, so they see the submarine has only drones but no turrets then they know ah only multiplayer, and if they don't play multiplayer then of course they ignore the submarine.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 6:25 
Drones as mobile towers.

The problem with turrets that are on auto, they are always just like the value you use for the turret, so always just as Super or bad, while bots can improve, and perks of them also work if they have any that are for turrets.

Also a problem are the enemies that are only created when the submarine gets closer to the point where they are created.

But maybe it is necessary to use another magnet system, so that the drones when they are closer to the submarine they move with it.

I don't know how the magnet system works, I know of only one submarine that uses it, and as long as the drones are in the area they are also very difficult to control, although the drones outside go as well as on the submarine here.

But first there has to be a single player version that you can test.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 6:24 
Rating doesn't say that much either.

Players must first come to play Barotrauma anyway, then only the host will rate it, I don't know if all other players must have the submarine in the mod list to be able to play if the server uses the submarine.

Many also forget to rate, especially if they come to play later, and then many also download or subscribe to something first.

So some people like the multiplayer version, but because there is only one multiplayer version, they can't rate single player very well, and no one asks for a single player version because asking for other versions often doesn't help, so only a few ask.

If they had made a single player version, I'm sure few would have asked if they could make a multiplayer version, because I've read that many times, whereas with submarines that are made for multiplayer and hardly ever work in single player, hardly anyone asks if they could make a single player version.
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 3:33 
[2]
For SP, I would disable their Health, but energy still would be there to take care about.

This project was an idea I wanted to make. I haven't played barotrauma for a year or so before I made this sub.
I do not have friends to play with and I made this clearly for the community, not for myself. This is why SP version was just a "side-project if people like the multiplayer one".
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 3:32 
[1]
It is nice of you believing in this sub, but you also can see the numbers. It does not even have a rating aka, meaning people are not so satisfied with it. :hfr_happy:

For the single-player version, Drones would be controlled and put to places where they would act as "towers", firing at opponents by themselves when not directly controlled by the player.

As 11-iv3 wanted to be a unique experience for multiplayer, it wanted to be unique for single player too.

You supposed to move the drones ahead and put them to places where they can overwatch while you move with the sub. Once you reached a location, you control the drones again. You do this till you eventually reach the end of the map.
Using drones like this you can set them to protect the main sub in different angles while you are away, while you can use one to cover you during an expedition. You always can switch between your crew members to move the drone in caves.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 2:31 
(4)

And for the fact that this submarine can only be used in multiplayer, it is already very popular, because you need real players to be able to use the drones, because the submarine has no towers. (Except 1 tower that you have to buy , which you can only reload at the bottom. )

So others are also looking at the drones, because of so far mostly drones either hardly what can , or are slow , often indestructible because you do not know how to do it differently , or often remote control shuttles without crew so super tiny submarines , some have infinite ammunition some must be reloaded.

And since they all have their own designs, also interesting for those who already build drones.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 2:16 
(3)

Single Player Version.

If so, the drones should have a switching function.

Crew can use them as Gunner, so only the weapon, and then you can switch through yourself to drive them all only, where then a Gunner below still uses them.

Also, the drone must move with the submarine, if they are not too far away, otherwise they will hardly bring anything in the single player, because you always have to dock them, or Manual have to catch up, which takes time.

And an override that then only the player takes over and can both drive and shoot, and a button for that also below, so that you can use this submarine also in multiplayer, for players who are less than what is needed for this submarine.

Bots can use turrets, not drones, so bots are of little use in single and multiplayer for a submarine that has no weapons except for the other stuff, but they can't repair the drones from this one either because bots don't go out of submarines.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 1:59 
(2)

Drones don't have sonar, so you don't know where the submarine is and where other drones are, so if someone takes over someone else's drone, they don't know where to go back.

Except for the "Relic" drone, which has sonar, useful for me in single player to test when and where enemies are generated when I get closer to the target with the submarine, but the drone is there but there is no enemy, without the drone I would not even know that many enemies are generated only when you come with the submarine near the places where the game has decided to generate enemies when generating levels.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 1:56 
(1)

This is a bad prerequisite for making a single player version, if it means it will Multiplayer Version be more popular.

Not everyone plays multiplayer, then this is more likely to be used with friends, especially because of the drone in the back, which anyone can use to spoil the fun of playing on servers in multiplayer by simply killing everyone with it.

Strangers can also not play together as well as those who know each other somehow, so that all with all submarines are always worse than with friends, and since this actually has no towers except one for the captain, which you also have to buy first, playing together with drones is even harder.

Means someone must have a server, and must know enough with whom he can play, and then the or one of the others must have seen this submarine to know that it exists, there are over 20'000 submarines at least over 10'000 because in exactly this list also shuttles and drones and single things land.
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 10 月 4 日 上午 12:57 
I was thinking about making a singe-player version of this sub-marine if it got more popular or it had enough demand for it.

The SP version of this would allow one person to control all drones with the ability to cycle through them. They would have automatic firing when are stand by, and manual firing when you have direct control over one.

But it was not so popular so I see no reason to spend more time on this project.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 3 日 下午 3:04 
The drones are useful for me, I will test in the editor when I add a drone control there, how well you can control it from there, because I have not built any shuttles yet, but all the shuttles I have seen so far are a control via screen as Navigation or Shuttle Controll.

And the damage system for drones, and the info how the drone state and battery are.

From one other else like shuttles to 200 meters have power from the submarine remote charging, which is much too cumbersome for me, but he also uses reactors for shuttles, so I can also directly install one. / All make only use batteries and become useless because of time in single player because you need longer for everything.

In the game there is a lot possible to build, it's just a pity that bots can't use some things, they can't even do anything outside.

Thank you for this submarine , even if it can not be used in single player , so many can see what else is possible to build.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 3 日 下午 2:43 
(2)

Diving suits.

Several of them lying around, their tanks not being charged, you constantly have to change the tanks or swap them with the one in the box so that the tank charges.

Multiplayer would also be inconvenient if someone had to do it over and over again when you go out the top.

Several reasons why you can go out on top, ore above the submarine, dead enemies that drift down to you or that you catch with the submarine to empty them, ruins or caves that are above you, and in multiplayer all this can be done by several players, in single player I have to do it all alone but if there is an exit on top I use it instead of having to swim around the whole submarine.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 3 日 下午 2:43 
(1)

Had to drag Translator from the browser somewhere else to translate the text from the image without switching back and forth all the time.

Bad that comments only have a limit of 1000 Sign, and reviews only 8000 Sign.

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RD-101 / Above is DB-101

The only problem was that I took the front drone and got the back drone, which I couldn't see on the moving picture that it was this one, otherwise it wouldn't have happened.

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Drones and electric boxes / I had seen the one about energy.

I couldn't assign the other value to what it belonged to because it doesn't have a name for what it stands for.

Good, then at least there is already the information about the condition.
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 10 月 3 日 上午 11:24 
I made a picture of my reply due to character limit that you can read here:
https://i.imgur.com/eyer5ib.png
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 3 日 上午 11:08 
(3)

Drones.

Is it intentional that the electric boxes can take damage, because normally electric boxes are not in the water, because they take damage faster.

Electric boxes have a problem like everything else, they can only be repaired when they reach about 50% durability, so a drone like this can break down inconveniently, because unfortunately you can't see at what percentage the electric box is.

If it is intentional, then an info display if it is possible, which somehow says how much % the electrical box still has.

The problem is that if the drone breaks down somewhere, you have to get there to repair it. If it happens in biome 2, it will land somewhere because of the current.

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Electrical boxes are always set to invulnerable when someone puts wiring outside for clarity, and for things that cannot be changed and are hidden.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 3 日 上午 11:06 
(2)

Dive exits.

Unusual when they go automatically, and there is no marker that shows you where the sensor goes, so how close you have to be to open and close the doors.

Since the submarine is not for the single player, it doesn't matter that the upper exit is the diving suit in the exit.

At the top you could also add 1 or 2 more suits, and put the one in the exit out to the others, the small cabinet that hangs on the wall also to the air outlet, and the outlet down if the small cabinet should have the height of the others.

It is awkward to go from the bottom right to the top left with a suit if more than 1 has to go out at the top.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 10 月 3 日 上午 11:06 
(1)

I looked at the submarine in the editor, but only as a test to see the drones.

And immediately with the first drone that is at the stern, I killed 2 crew that were in the back of the submarine, because I can't see exactly on the moving picture that it is this drone.

I'll take a look at the wiring another time.
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 10 月 3 日 上午 8:32 
I was honestly waiting for this. Since those pictures were not broken when I fixed the first one...
Google is high or something. :hfr_sigh:

I just hope it won't happen again.
Or at least when it happens next, the sub hopefully will be forgotten completely and no one will notice. :hfr_happy:
Cobwebwell 2023 年 10 月 3 日 上午 8:19 
Well, it happened again, some of the pictures still doesn't load
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 10 月 1 日 上午 2:03 
Fixed it.
Hopefully it won't happen again.. No idea why it happened. Google is drunk. :hfr_sigh:
Cobwebwell 2023 年 9 月 30 日 上午 11:58 
the texts just gone, could you just re-upload the images?
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 9 月 14 日 上午 11:34 
You need to switch to Armed mode with a double click.
Then you can begin firing with left mouse button. Pressing it again will stop firing (for Xelary and Neon). For Veetu, you hold left mouse button.

More detailed Instructions about how to use the drones are written above! :hfr_happy:
Old Stupid Grandma 2023 年 9 月 14 日 上午 8:00 
how to shoot?
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 9 月 14 日 上午 1:51 
(4)

The magnet system ensures that the drone moves with the submarine.

So until I get around to building my own submarine with drones at some point, I first have to get around to building a drone that can then also be used for this.

Otherwise I would only build a submarine that could only be used in multiplayer, but I could never use it myself, not even how well it works when bots can't use the guns because the drone would only have double click for driving and switching weapons mode. / Towers then have to be set to 360 degrees.

If it did it would have to have a switching system Weapon for periscope fires and drives when it is on normal, and works over 2 periscopes when switched, one drives one fires, then the 2 periscope for single player bots would be at the turret, and player drives drone in the magnet area where the turret is supposed to be.

Weapon can be reloaded in the submarine with such drones as the loader has no physical connection with the weapon.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 9 月 14 日 上午 1:36 
(3)

The magnet system would have to be used so that it works for single players, otherwise the drone would also have to be usable in the docking state like a gun turret, which may or may not work depending on the type of drone you would build or who else would have to use it, there are drones that have made them so that others can install them where.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 9 月 14 日 上午 1:36 
(2)

Putting turrets on automatic has disadvantages, such as that they always stay the same as they are set, so they don't get better through perks like bots do, and through turret upgrades, and players get better over time.

Those that use automatic guns in submarines do limit them in range, making them inaccurate would cause them to cost too much ammo, and as drones they lose their usefulness at low range or being inaccurate.

Problem of the weapon types, pulse laser as inaccurate becomes useless as it has a slow rate of fire which can be changed but the weapon would then be powerful if the target is large, chaingun then eats too much ammo if inaccurate, coilgun still best at inaccurate, the weapons would then also have to be locked for changing.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 9 月 14 日 上午 1:35 
(1)

No, that is not the problem.

I can't build drones and submarines yet, only convert submarines.

How the magnet system works I don't know, so far I only know a drone that uses it for docking and a submarine that uses it as a field around itself and for docking.

The single drone that you can use for submarines works great.

The one submarine I'm talking about has problems with the magnetic field, where docking drones can also sink into the structure inside the submarine.
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 9 月 13 日 下午 11:24 
@guns
Glad to hear that! That was the plan, indeed. :hfr_happy:

@Moon-Shadow
I'm unsure what you wish to do. Maybe the language barrier makes it harder to understand.
You don't really needs bots to operate the turrets. You can use the auto-turret option, too. You can turn auto-turret on/off in-game if you make a switch mechanism to the turret's power. Without power, it cannot fire.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 9 月 13 日 下午 7:38 
No towers only drones, only one, not quite , there is at least one other , which is older , but the problem also has not worked without online players.

But at least this has a nicer design, than the other one I saw.

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Single Player , only drones and no towers , only with magnet system for drones around the submarine , and 2 periscope , once weapons and steering.

Where you steer them where you want, and the bot steers the weapon.

Which you could normally also use in multiplayer where they could then fly further away, and with a button could become a double click switching system, depending on how many bots and players you have.

Too complex for me, otherwise I would build one. / For single players it would have to be more like 4 drones, because you have to control them yourself since bots can't do that.
guns 2023 年 9 月 13 日 上午 10:50 
good challenging sub, and is a unique idea in sub building
simsyu 2023 年 9 月 6 日 上午 7:15 
Happy to help!
Making a sub with only drones as a mean to defend yourself is a really daring project. Truly creative.
:barotrauma::ambition:
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 9 月 6 日 上午 1:59 
Thank you for the compliment! :hfr_happy:

And I also thank you for giving a hint back then. I remember it was you who mentioned how to damage juncboxes by will. It turned to be the way to go! :hfr_happy:
simsyu 2023 年 9 月 5 日 上午 10:01 
Damn, look at this creativity. Fellow sub creator, you deserve an award for this feat.
:barotrauma::ambition:
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 9 月 4 日 下午 10:36 
Thanks!
If you guys enjoy playing with 11-iv3, then I already reached my first goal. :hfr_happy:

Second would be to have a rating. Just because green is my fav color. :hfr_sigh:
Kookoorooza 2023 年 9 月 4 日 下午 2:05 
Dude, this is insane. For sure one of the best subs available in workshop.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 9 月 4 日 上午 1:27 
Oh, that's what you meant by testing in the editor.

In the editor, I first look at the primary wiring to see how something works.

And then I look at how to use what in the editor as a test. / And Later make i on Editor a Test.

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There is also a magnet system that keeps drones within a certain distance of the submarine and moves with it, so a bot could use drones as a gun turret if the drone is a little further away from the submarine.

So the player would have to move it and the bot would have to use it as a turret.

But with these drones it doesn't work because they don't have infinite ammo, and bots can't reload them because they can't get the drone back, and then it would only work with drones that don't break.

The biggest problem is the magnet system, it has too many bugs, drones that sink into the submarine or go somewhere else during the launch, and a shaky control system as long as they are in magnet range.
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 9 月 4 日 上午 1:01 
Well, yes. But it was just to test the drone, not to actually play it alone.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 9 月 4 日 上午 12:47 
I know that I can switch my character.

As well as giving tasks without which it would be impossible to play single player.
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You can text cooperative features as I just did with my Veetu gif (transport). Use the "X" key to switch between your characters.

Yes, but that doesn't help much because the ones on board won't control any drones, and if I put a bot in this drone, it probably won't do anything until I switch to it to do something with it, where the drone won't do anything because no one is controlling it from the submarine.
Tealyen  [作者] 2023 年 9 月 3 日 下午 11:28 
Thank you for the compliments!
Sorry for the sudden flood of updates, but turned out I left some errors in...

@Moon-Shadow
You can text cooperative features as I just did with my Veetu gif (transport). Use the "X" key to switch between your characters.

About how to implement multi-ammo turrets..
I would use "hold mouse button" method. While button is held, a counter goes up by 1 every second. Each number would represent an ammo type, like "1 - default", "2 - piercing", "3 - explosive" etc... When you release the mouse button, that ammo will be activated.
I think you already know that, you need as many turrets as many ammo types you add, just make them invisible, except one.
Moon-Shadow 2023 年 9 月 3 日 下午 7:49 
Damage that bots can't handle drones, but they can't even do anything outside of submarines, except get back in quickly.

I look at other Time the submarine in the editor, because of the wiring how the drones work, I don't plan to copy the drones, I will build one myself sometime and so far it would only be indestructible from what I know how they work.

As I want to make one with 2 weapons system via button to switch, via double click for mode change so driving and shooting. ( Chaingun and 2 Ammo Boxes , Railgun with 5 Ammo or 3 single Loader. )

The first idea would have been 2 periscopes one driving and another using both weapons to switch via double click, I don't know how well such a drone would work, and for single player it would be nothing anyway so I couldn't even test it properly.
Solus The Immortal 2023 年 9 月 3 日 下午 1:40 
Man great sub, these wiring wizards scare me lol
Old Stupid Grandma 2023 年 9 月 2 日 下午 10:58 
WOW! this thing is Powerfull
Personman 2023 年 9 月 2 日 下午 7:04 
This is severely underrated, i only discovered this hidden gem today and its already one of my favorite subs