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tried resubing and unsubing didn't do anything spears still have normal length in the stat page but when you equip it it's 5m long even without the mod no idea why

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i installed this mod didn't like how big the pikes were and uninstalled it now any spear in the game is still extremely long how to fix this?

@herobrine198 it doesn't make sense though. If the thrust magnitude multiplier is set to 1, there shouldn't be any increase from vanilla damage at all.

@order_without_power Yeah, you don't need to change the mod because I found this simple workaround.

@葫芦、Ca1abasH 不知道，我没使用Shokuho.

hi, i always wanted a double hand spear upright mod, is this conflict with shokuhu?

@herobrine198 @FrenSheep do you have RBM combat module enabled?

sweet, yeah, tested it at 66% like you said and now the values are right around where they need to be for balance in RBM

@order_without_power no matter what i set they were decimating every other unit

@FrenSheep "Better Damage" from nexusmods

@herobrine198 take note that with the thrust magnitude multiplier at 1, it is equivalent to vanilla pike damage.

What mod did you download?

I couldn't get it below 1, so I downloaded another mod and set the pike damage to 66%. It works fine.

@herobrine198 you can adjust the thrust magnitude multiplier in the mod options.

This mod is great, but there's one issue: pikes ignore armor. I'm playing with De Re Militari and RBM, and Imperial Menavliatons dominate in direct combat despite having objectively worse armor and weapons against heavily armored enemies. How can I adjust the damage they deal? It's unrealistic that a fully armored cataphract doesn't die on impact but can take 400–1000 damage from a weapon that should only be effective if it collides at high speed. Similarly, the Knights of the Sacred Fire, arguably the best foot unit, stand no chance against these pikemen, despite the pikemen having less suitable weapons for this type of enemy, lower skills, and inferior armor.

Okay that does make sense. I have noticed they grip the pike pretty close to the front in some animations, it may be related.

@dagobert dogburglar another user feedbacked that the pikes were clipping through the heads of the pikemen in front when being held in the overhead thrust.

I like every part of this except removing overhead thrusts? Why? In almost every historical depiction of pikemen and fencing manuals a high thrusting guard is extremely common.

Pikes are *very* light, they wouldnt be usable otherwise. Almost every single contemporary historical example of a pike is under 10 kg.

супер, наконец то можно будет отыграть терцию 17 века

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its too bad Realistic Battle Mod will make your game crash...

mk thank you so much

@bevus nimbus you can try Basic Overhaul by Carioceco.

is there any mods that help with commands for using the different weapons?

@bevus nimbus then you can try raising the slider.

so it worked to about 90% of them use the pikes now but a few do not still

In the mod options Spear Preference Fix for RBM, try resetting the settings to default. When in battle, make sure you put your pikemen in shield wall and order them to advance, not charge.

i do but they still do not use the pike

@bevus nimbus make sure you have the mod requirements installed.

i ran into a problem when i start a battle the pikemen do not use their pikes and just become regular infantry

@WittyName try putting ATC and DRM at the bottom of the load order.

Yea, like i said. I installed all required mods.

@WittyName strange, I don't face the same issue as you. And by mod requirements I mean you need to have Adonnay's Troop Changer installed in order to use DRM.

I ran only DRM, Better pikes, RBM and there are no pikeman lol. just tell everyone that you need to play vlandia with DRM, BP and RBM to have better pikes. Its rediclous that modders claim this stuff works and download all these other mods so you can get pikemen for every faction when its clearly not true.

So, thanks for the mod. its great if you didn't have to play one faction. Please remove DRM from the suggested mod list because that mod has zero pikemen so its very misleading.

Yep, I installed all suggested mods within this article and what steam asked me to do. i'm just telling you, DRM is a really bad suggestion for a mod to download, there are zero pikemen in that mod. You might as well tell everyone to play vlandia in vanilla to play this mod. DRM has zero pikeman, none, zip, nada.

@WittyName make sure you have the mod requirements installed.

It's a cool mod with the troop trees and all that but it completely removes pikes, even vlandia doesn't have pikes with that mod.

How so? I played for 6 hours yesterday, no lords army had pikes units in it, no villages, towns or taverns had pike units.

@WittyName it adds pike units to Empire, Battania and Vlandia which are not in vanilla.

Why is DRM recommended? there are no pikemen in that mod. unless its something you recruit out of a tavern. No factions troop trees have pikemen.

@Aldebaran1918 please share the crash report.

I really want to like this mod. Pike and shot/crossbow tactics are amongst my favorites...
But it seems like every time I try to make a new game with this mod it just crashes.
Any hint or help as to how to fix this issue? Thanks

@Bot Andrew you can try increasing the pike blow magnitude multiplier in the mod options.

Decent Mod But Pikes Are Still Terrible Against Infantry.
I once had 30 pikeman and they couldn't handle 8 bandits, i had to get them in line formation so they would use their swords.

i have a probelm with rot and better pikes and that better seems to make all polearms require very high level to use

@Diiizyyy yes.

Is this working on 1.2.12?