Can confirm as well on the camp wiped out messages bug

Yeah, I get several "White Eyebrow Camp #X has been wiped out" messages immediately on starting a new game with this mod enabled.

is this broken? as im running around the border zone and presumably within range of a camp i get the message that the camp has been wiped out before i even see it

its happening too quickly for legitimate fights to be occuring, so i assume the game tries to spawn them, but can't, and wipes the camp out instantly

what MFO stand for

@Da Murph: did you import your save after you added mod to your game?

Has anyone figured out why the swamp towers never have people or good in them?

First of all I'd like to say your Overhaul mods were among the very first Kenshi mods I subscribed to. Since then they have become 100% essential to my game. Absolutely fantastic work!

If you are open to it or have the time, I'd like to ask about a few other minor factions that I believe are in need of overhauls themselves, and maybe a few recommendations for your current ones.

I'd also like to know how one could donate, or help out in some way. Add or shoot me a DM on steam if you'd like or lemme know a better way to get in touch with ya!

Every time I go to the White Eyebrow tower its taken over by the Black Dragon Ninjas, I have recently imported and still the same result

If by the northern island you mean the raised, mountainous outcropping in the northern swamps - There's no settlements I can see on it through the f12 dev menu. Is there a possibility that the White Eyebrow Tower town placement just didn't spawn? When I look it up in the Town Placement menu, the name is in red.

Can you provide a specific location for their Tower? Genuinely cannot find it after scouring the swamps.

Hi, finding somthing we can call a bug, some of camp have infinit members it mean if you are near a camp, squads come to rest on the camp and they come at the infinit, i'm in situation where one camp have over 200 troops and they keep coming.

Not the first time encounter this bug.

Same as Skandies, the White Eyebrow camps wipe as soon as they spawn.

holy shit these assholes are annoying, even shem is terrorised by these sonvabitches, nice mod tho!

I dont know why but all the white eyebrow camps are always appearing as cleared despite starting a new game and only having this mod enabled. Is this normal or a bug?

Oh alright, I didn't realize that's the way it was intended. There's a little camp set up around it with turrets, thought it was a little strange that they'd have turrets set up to blast their own tower, but I suppose maybe they're under some kind of permanent siege? Hard to say! In any case, glad it's not bugged, just an odd little POI.

@Wave

The half submerged tower is a "feature" lol, it's to make it slightly difficult to attack the tower head on as you'll need to swim directly towards the door while the top portion of the tower has turrets to shoot at you.

There's ways around this, as there is a nearby cliff that you can put a good archer on (with an Eagle's cross probably) in order to deal with the White Eyebrow Turretmen at the top of the tower.

I did this in a previous game where I took out the WE Leader and his gang with essentially no casualties lol

That's just what I was able to find. In my game, both the Kaizo and UWE towers spawn... I have the Kaizo/UWE patch as well, pretty low in the load order, and nothing crazy after it, so I'm not sure why I have both towers lol. In any case it's no big deal, the Kaizo one seems to only spawn a WE Boss (not The Man himself), but the UWE tower is weirdly placed and half-submerged. I'm not sure if it's a bug, but if it is, it's outside the scope of this particular mod anyway!

Anyway I still haven't found the tower from this mod but I always had The Man spawn at the UWE one. YMMV.

Nvm you said they don't have a World State associated and the boss still spawns in the normal UWE tower lol

The convert to Lieutenant for example would be just a small patch to any world overrides (if necessary). So just add an extra World State = 0/1 if a town is supposed to flip over to White Eyebrow ownership or something lol

@Wave

Yes the White Eyebrow Tower in UWE/Kaizo (assuming you're using both and the patch by TreadLightly) is somewhere near Shem , if I remember correctly.

If you did make a patch, it would probably be easier to remove the White Eyebrow Leader from the new Swamp Tower (for compatibility with UWE and such) or maybe just convert them into a Lieutenant or something instead of the actual faction boss.

I would need to look into it further in FCS to see how best to do it.

Some of the other Minor Faction Overhauls also have new leader positions but it doesn't seem like a big problem in my opinion, maybe once all of them have been released by Mr. Shears I could do a mega patch or something. (Would be nice if all the new MFOs get merged into a singular .mod but that's up to Mr. Shears lol)

From some experimentation and looking around in FCS/in-game - not the easiest thing to do smoothly, frankly - it looks like this mod, UWE, and Kaizo all add their own White Eyebrow Tower, but all three mods tie into the same faction, so there aren't 2 or 3 different White Eyebrow Clans running around. It also appears that the Towers are all in different places and have different overrides - this mod doesn't have any - so you can have a nice little potluck of different WE Towers if you take out the big man. I can't seem to find a duplicate White Eyebrow (the man) anywhere. Seems like he spawns at the UWE Tower.

Do you happen to know how this mod will interact with the Kenshi Kaizo implementation of the White Eyebrow Clan?