Yeah, I agree with that. It feels like a good concept, just in need of adjusting.

I'll see what I can do about the parrying gas thing, but having a bad vertical recovery is an intended weakness of the character. I can change USpecial and the platforms a little bit but I don't want them improved to the point where they could be considered "good". Especially with the platforms, as i want them to be useful as a last-ditch option to survive offstage, with the major downside being the loss of items for a bit.

Losing access to all of my other items for spawning one platform makes platforms feel useless. Up special still seems really excessively bad. Parrying seems to just completely invalidate gas & since it reflects the damage onto me, it's like I'm being punished for even using it.

Now that I've used him more, I can confirm that the patch that stops him for a moment when opening the menu midair is a massive improvement.

Only Collector. I didn't notice any other specific circumstances that might've triggered it except I guess I'm usually spawning an item when it happens because that's usually what gets parried. I noticed it happening a lot in a wide variety of fights but I don't know if I would've noticed it not happening since that would just be normal.

I'll see if I notice a pattern or any exceptions when I'm watching my own videos after I upload 'em later today.

That is... a strange problem. It doesn't seem to happen during my testing. Does it happen with any other workshop characters, or just The Collector? Is there any other criteria, or is it just any move, against any character, on any stage?

The new patch does seem like an improvement. On an unrelated note, I've had a glitch since before any of these patches. It seems like any time any of my moves gets parried when I'm using The Collector, all of my moves temporarily get replaced by neutral jab. Even if it's a special or a strong, somehow every input just does neutral jab instead for several seconds after I get parried.

Not a bad idea. I would probably add that too.

That makes a lot of sense. It would even help prevent death if the player accidentally fast falls in the process of making a platform. Come to think of it, making the menu freeze the player in place for a split second the first time they open it per air time could also help since it would stop you from doing an accidental fast fall at all.

Well my plan when I eventually got around to rebalancing The Collector was to make it spawn directly underneath him, but increase the cost to 75%. It would be a great recovery tool but would be unavailable if certain items were out. On use it would also effectively lock The Collector out of having multiple items for 10 seconds since there is no way to despawn platforms early.

I'm almost never able to find a use for his platforms & even when I find one in theory, I usually can't do it in practice because getting them where I want them is way too hard compared to how useful they actually are.

I think the best way to fix that problem is by making them spawn over him instead of behind him or at least around head height. That way, you wouldn't have to think about which direction you're facing or pull off extremely precise midair maneuvers to place them.

Yep, that fixed it. Thanks.

Should be fixed, thanks!

In a lot of mod modes & mod boss fights, the missiles don't despawn after leaving the screen so the game quickly slows to a crawl because this game doesn't like it when there's something miles off-screen to keep track of. Mods where this happens include Break the Targets, Daroach, & Tinker Knight.

Cool. Thanks for fixing it so fast.

Should be fixed now! Thanks for letting me know.

When an enemy hits my impact bombs, I get hurt even if I'm on the opposite side of the stage.

I like how consistently the animations look like he's using LittleBigPlanet's Create Mode to edit his vehicle during the fight. The pistons in his tech animation are a nice touch.

Anyone here done Sackboy yet?

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To the person who mentioned a boss or playable Negativitron, YES! He would translate perfectly into the 2D mechanics of Rivals, he'd probably be much faster than he was in LBP2 tho.

My general idea for his recovery was that it was slow, predictable and overall not that good if he can't reach the wall. What I usually do is jump, use up special to reach the wall, wall jump, immediately do reverse neutral special, use both jumps again, then use up special again if needed. If I were to change it I would probably make up special have extra horizontal momentum.

He needs his Up-Special changed.

Since he falls during startup, he gains practically 0 distance with it.

I need more LittleBigPlanet content on this game, it would be so cool to have like a Negativitron boss fight stage or even as a playable character (idk how the playable character would exactly work but it would be awesome)

The Collector? *Lights Cigarette* I haven't heard that name in years.

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MORE LITTLE BIG PLANET CONTENT ON THE INTERNET PLEASE

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I really want to see more LBP in ROA

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