No, it was just someone posting actively in the main OWB discord #submodding channel in the lead up to the release of the big update for my submod, so I added it as a place holder. I think it died though, or it's on hold.

Oh, sorry about that I thought Sliver Road was a mod you were developing. Do you have a Discord link or any other sources of information for it?

It was planned to expand on all nations in Nevada. I'm not sure the status of it, haven't seen anything about it for a year or so. If it's dead, I might make an Isoptope Chapter mod myself.

Will Sliver Road be a huge mod, like Darkness Falls, or is it just a small-scale work?

that's ture,Isotope chapter's story is very attractive. When i get the translate done i'm so glad to see the story of elder Rutherford still has more to tell

Hi Ka123, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'm going to rework that part of the tree entirely, it's a bit janky as you noticed, and doesn't do much if you don't become Lost Hills elder. I'll restrict volunteers to BOS nations, or those you've invested in through focuses.
As for volunteers, I know, it's a sore issue. The way I've made it work is to link up Lost Hills with San Fran Chapter via a land bridge. Whether that's from a limited war, border conflict or event, I'm not sure yet. One of the big complaints about Darkness Falls is the railroading of events, so trying to put everything in player (or AI hands).

I love the mod, but theirs a couple pretty big problems with it. 1.) The Shi putting the Mojave and Guardians into the Lost hills faction breaks Lost hills, they can't send divisions through NCR land and can't send volunteers to people in the faction so they just sit there, and your strongest ally isn't able to help against the Legion. 2.) Shi AI is wild. One second he's sending you divisions, the next second he's sending volunteers to New Reno and killing the guardians who he just sent a supply package to, i tested it three times to verify. 3.) If the AI decides to support the Cultist it rushes that focus, there party becomes ruler, they than change and become the Shi State and join the NCR faction, that one was wild when i was playing Lost Hills and saw my brothers in the North betray me. I like the writing, i really like the Isotope chapter focuses and wish we got more there. again, i really like the mod but it's almost unusable if you yourself aren't playing them.

That's a bug. I'll see if I can fix.

a great mod, but i notice that the san francisco chapter flag turns back to the original shi flag when becoming the california chapter, it was intended or is it a bug??

Chinese translate is done，looking forward to sliver road

Hi Beaver Mafia, yes, that's why there's been no update, and why I didn't touch the settler part of the tree at all, this isn't news, it was first announced last year. Once I see what the end state tree looks like, I can make a decision on how to proceed. I'm toying with the idea of adding the San Fran Chapter at game start so you can interact with Navarro Conflict, and then use decisions / events to influence the outcome in the main Shi nation so they end up as BOS, or if not, civil war.

Since the Shi are receiving a unique Focus Tree, will there be changes to accommodate this?

That would be appreciated, I did say "This" version. It seems like you intended to expand the Shi to be NCR successor and beyond, so I'd imagine i would eventually discover some basic truck or car tech.

That's just vanilla Shi tech decisions, I didn't change that. I guess I can add intermediate vehicle tech somewhere.

Why cant this version of Shi research intermediate vehicle tech?? Im stuck on bikes and cant research past it

It should be automatic. I've seen faction disappearing if Lost Hills die and then get released as part of peace deal, and then they do the High Elder decision. I'm working on a backup BOS faction just in case this ever happens.

Question about when you become absolute high elder as Hong. Are you supposed to assume leadership of the faction automatically or is there something else I have to do first? I was able to do the decisions that invite Guardians and Mojave into the Western Brotherhood but after the decision none of us were in the WB. Love the mod though and thank you for all your work.

Yeah sure, go for it, post the link here when it's done and I can add it under translation sections.

Oh also the darkness falls

Hey dude,i'm a Chinese translater,this mod have not CNver in workshop,i want to translate into Chinese,I'd like to ask for a permission.

Thanks Shall We, glad you liked it.

Hey man ! Really wanted to thank you for making San Francisco Chapter and Darkness Falls.
In my opinion, you really managed to get that spirit/idea about what Brotherhood in original Fallout Universe is. Masterfully done, sir !

P.S.

Especially liked the attitude towards the Montana Chapter)

Kudos to you for your great work !

Man I'm tired of all deez fooz tha smell like meat.

@Rat, they're both fully compatible with Lost Hills Expanded. LHE may invite WashBOS to join Western BOS during some of the Oregon Chapter shenanigans when one or the other has been kicked from the faction, but I've never seen it happen in any of my many test games. No idea about Ad Victoriam, probably compatible with some funkiness expected.

How compatible are the san fran and drakness falls mods with Ad Victoriam or Lost hill expanded?

Update the Washington Brotherhood! please

It's a separate full Nevada submod someone else is working on, that has Isotope Chapter in Sierra Army depot from day one.
Glad you liked it :)

This was a fantastic sub-mod to playthrough, I honestly enjoyed it more then any other BOS chapter so far.

*That said* as I was nearing the end of the run, I noticed something regarding the "Remember the Isotope Chapter" focus. Something about a "Silver Road" submod? Is that something that you also are working on, or a separate project from another creator?

I'm glad I returned to this mod, I initially did not like it but this most recent update cleaned things up and got rid of some of the place holder ai stuff I didn't enjoy. Thanks for the new addition to my load order! Can't wait to see what you do next

Thanks for the update. I haven't played the vanilla Shi focus tree, so I actually didn't know that was a typo from the main OWB mod. I will probably stick with the San Fran Chapter once I become Absolute High Elder.

Hi Zaros. That's vanilla code, I'll see if I can fix it for my submod, should be easy enough. You become Absolute High Elder by bordering the Lost Hills while at peace. If you are the biggest Chapter, they should offer you the position, and you can then accept, becoming the Lost Hills with Francis as the leader, or accept, but remain as the San Fran Chapter. That's the path that has its own focus tree section. If you're planning on becoming Lost Hills, then pick your fave LH faction, and Francis will retire after a month or so, and you promote your chosen faction into a leadership role.

I haven't gotten far into this submod yet, but it feels great so far. Just one problem so far. I'm pretty sure "Expand the Brotherhod Delegation" is a typo and it should be "Expand the Brotherhood Delegation".

Also, since I haven't gotten far enough into the submod yet, I don't exactly which focus unlocks the ability to become Absolute High Elder, as well as if Shi gets claims all of the states similar to Lost Hills. But I'm sure it will pop up later on.

The tree seems a bit light on story. I don't know why Elder Francis was even in San Francisco, much less why he's trying to take it over.

I'm not touching the generic settler tree, that way lies madness. Depending on how the official Shi update gets handled, I might remove the entire generic tree. That said, you can get scribes tech if you work with the Maxsonians, but I am considering adding it to everyone, and then having a 5-7 focus mini tree for each of the 3 Lost Hill political branches.

"Brotherhood Scribe Exile" focus - not sure if it's yours or vanilla, but perhaps it could activate the BOS Scribes support company? Or a weaker version. (Are the support groups in vanilla? I'm running this with LH Expanded activated)

Also, there had better be a "That's what Shi said" joke in this mod of there will be hell to pay.

Hah, I don't know, and never really thought about it. Once the Shi gets updated in the main mod, I'll see if it's worth changing. I could probably replace mentions of the Emperor with Elder Francis, and it would still work relatively well.

I realise that the problem originates in the main mod, but why does backing the Shi Emperor cause the Brotherhood to come to power?

we are so fucking back

Version 3.0 is finally here! Let me know of any issues in comments or on Discord. Should be fully compatible with Darkness Falls and or Lost Hills Expanded, and the map expansions too.

Any chance of you working with the creator of lost hills expanded? You two have the best BOS mods out there, and you both keep them up to date. Would love to see you two put your brains together and create something beautiful. Amazing work, excited for the new update

Yeah Love Train, I know, an OWB update broke it. I have a new update that I'm working on that fixes it all, plus more than doubles the size of the current tree. Soon!

Leader names are bugged/incorrect Lo Pan is named SHI_lo_pan_name and Elder Francis is similar

For next version, I added like 25 generic San Fran BOS general portraits, so I will remove the non level 4 ones from current focuses and make them advisors instead.

Timber does change to timbercause without much problem I think? (saw ai do it didn't do it myself yet) it has like the improved generic focus then switches to entirely new one.

Some people don't like Darkness Falls and just want to play San Fran only, so I can't make decisions wholly based on other submods. If San Fran Chapter owns all the Navarro Territories, then you don't really need the mirelurks, you'll have 50+ fairly elite divisions pushing the NCR instead. As for the Little guys mod, let me look at the code. I fixed it for TImberline, should be doable here too.

Yeah but like he can put up that land to better use so I just give it to them since he has focuses to core it, use mireluks and send mireluks to attack ncr which is way more usefull then mere claims and when he isn't in your faction he just justifies on you which is annoying even tho he can't attack bc of the truce.
Also your mod is not compatible with the For the little guys (which changes generic focus tree) bc both your mod and the base game shi retain parts of it (generic focus tree) and bc of using both mods together you don't get the extra added focuses (tbh at first I thought your mod is still at version 1.0 and only adds the 75% bos support and removes other factions so I didn't even noticed the new focuses are missing and just went for normal brutal crackdown part of for the little guys tree).

I don't think the Immortal needs them as such... They have wargoals on them so they can link up with the Western BOS. I am missing a focus to invite the San Fran Chapter to the Western BOS faction, will will then let the Immortal join too, once he's finished his reforms, and the Troll Warren is dead.

Wait you are the author of darkness falls?
How come you forgot immortal has war goals on mireluks and apostoles?
Why bother conquering them when immortal needs them more.

OK, so a forked choice: become Lost Hills Elder and take over in Lost Hills, pre-align yourself with a faction there OR become big BOS, take the important cities for yourself, convert the rest to a demilitarized puppet state called something like Brotherhood Administered California Territory. Restore the Guardians, restore the Mojave Chapter, fight the Legion, then go smack the Northern League and Dakota and whoever rules Texas. That sounds doable.

WWRMD?

Roger Maxon's original plan was to safeguard knowledge, then share the safe stuff with people once it was possible to do so. I assumed that in the older version of OWB that's what Lost Hills had been doing in their territory between FO2 and the NCR-Brotherhood War. So divide up the Brahmin Baron's territory amongst small land holders and give them farming equipment and agronomy. Destroy raiders and repair old world infrastructure. Bring the Washington Chapter and the Dakota Chapter to heel and avenge fallen chapters.