Thanks for the feedback. =)

I personally think the AI overvaluing settlements isn't too much of a concern; it's up to the player whether to abuse it or not, and I've found that in many cases, the AI simply doesn't have enough money to pay the full price even if one DOES try to exploit it.

Hey Lycia! regarding your questions i would like to give you my point of view about it. Are there any other advantages for you or the mod when you use this new tool from CA? inflated values in diplomacy can be easily avoided by using one of the many diplomacy mods in the workshop.i have tested some by myself and you were not able abuse these inflated values anymore by giving it to the AI. so i think your newest version of the mod is working very well. i have only seen kislevite, dark and high elven factions building tier 5 buildings in smaller settlements sometimes. everything else works fine

My question is: Are you guys willing to put up with the mod possibly becoming a bit rockier for a while in order to solve the inflated values in diplomacy? (I do have two nearly identical versions of this mod published, so I could keep one as it is now for a while for people who don't want to deal with new bugs).

2nd question: If there is a load time cost to this, how much load time would you be willing to accept to fix this issue before deciding it's not worth it? I can test the load time impact fairly easily and compare it with responses.

So with a tool CA recently added for modders, if I understand properly, I now have the option of deleting the base game's AI and fully replacing it with this mod. If I do that, I can lower construction values and resolve the issue where this mod makes settlements highly valued in diplomacy.

Possible downsides: Without CA's logic backing up my rule set, some bugs may become more apparent and it may take time to find and fix them all. I am also unsure what the effect will be on load times because I would need to delete a healthy amount of DB keys.

If any SFO users notice any important issues with the mod and SFO, let me know. I have two versions of the mod up and right now they are 99% the same (it was necessary when I had to datacore to change an issue). If I get some good advice I might make the other version follow rules for SFO or something, I'm not sure.

With some recent changes to the game, this mod should be SFO compatible. That being said, certain build priorities may make more sense in SFO than in vanilla, but this mod will build based on the expected benefit from vanilla structures.

Is it compatibility with sfo?

@Lord Vyse the community bugfix team. I think they have a channel on Da Modding Den discord.

@Dragon32 who are they?

@Lord Vyse
The CBFM people are trying to fix that, check out their mod page and Discord channel

@Eregios I don't see a way to accomplish that elegantly.

@Lord Vyse That's beyond my ability. You may want to check some of Incata's work he has like 5-6 AI mods.

I wanna I absolutely love this mod. I use it every time.

Do you think it can make the lizardmen and tomb kings
ai not be dead after ca forget to fix them?

Great Mod.

But i have a question. Would it be possible to make a Submod that let the AI build military buildings based on the Legendary Lord they play?
For example, Averlorn building the sisters of averlorn building or Yvresse building the mistwalker building more focused etc.

Guess this would be alot of work but it would be nice if they play more with units based on the lord.

Just an idea.

Sounds awesome! Always felt the vanilla hordes AI were idiots.

You'd just have to let a province run on auto construct long enough to tell.

Seems reasonable. I wonder what a good way to test that would be?

I never had the patience to try to verify that it does, but the game's data files only include one set of construction rules so it pretty much has to impact auto construction.

Does this mod also affect auto managed settlements for the player?

That is a side effect of me making the mod with values high enough to override vanilla logic. Now that we have the new twad_key_deletes table to remove entries from the vanilla game without datacoring, I might just X out all of the vanilla logic and let the mod run with reduced values since I don't have to compete with the vanilla priorities any more.

Ahoi. Unfortunately this mod makes the AI (friend or foe) overvalue trading settlements even more than vanilla already does.

As Malakai I can declare war on the Skaven, sack and then occupy a T1 minor settlement from them and sell it next round for 14k gold and peace (or a bit less for a non-aggression agreement).

@Hansen you pointed me to an area that needed improvement. So I added some logic for some horde buildings, mostly affecting Beastmen, some Lizardman factions, and Malakai.

If you see someone I have missed or if you think I should tweak a rule let me know. I am unretired from modding, finally.

Important Note: With the new way to remove keys from the game, the Alternate Version of the mod is no longer needed. You may want to subscribe to the This Version of the Mod (You Are Here) unless you dislike the Bretonnian farm prerequisites being removed.

Does your mod change the logics of factions like the Beastmen or Nakai? Thanks!

@Zarycus Some of the construction rules might be redundant between the two mods (depending on which mod you mean, he has a few). That said, it should work together pretty well.

is this compatible with Incata AI mod?

The vanilla game files still call for some walls, but I think they might be crowded out by other buildings if you don't use the submod.

will the ai still build wals if we dont use the wall submod

Thanks _FlyBy. It's much appreciated. I don't think The Old World changes much with regards to buildings, so this mod should work with it. I know it works with Immortal Empires Expanded as that is what I play with.

If I'm wrong about The Old World and buildings, this mod may not work as well as expected.

I had a question about compatibility with Old World Campaign mod, but I saw your comment about your mom - I'm really sorry for you and your family.

Take care @Lycia Pintella

Hope you're ok man? Just dropped by to say this mod has been amazing so far, fantastic work.

Thank you Dragon32 and Alex250. *Hugs*

Im so sorry for your loss Lycia!! I hope she is with Christ right now. Take your time, rest and come back when you can, dont worry.

A hug!!

Damn, Lycia. Big hug.

Guys thank you for being patient with me as there were a few bug reports and requests from the last few months that I basically just never got to.

My mom passed away yesterday, and I would like to come back to modding soon to have some task to distract myself with, but I am not sure when I will be able to focus again. Thanks to everyone for always being so patient with me even over simple requests.

I won't burden you guys with my emotional situation, but I do want to say she was the most amazing person in my life, and she always put the needs of her family above her own, even though she lived in pain and had things a dozen times worse than anyone else because of her health issues. She was thinking and talking about her family with her last words.

There will never be a person as amazing as her in this world, at least not to me.

Thanks for listening. I want people to know she was amazing, even if you will never know the details.

Unless someone does something crazy-complicated that I haven't considered, the building rules just combine and end up covering each other in the event that one mod has a bug etc.

That being said, a construction rule in one mod might be strategically superior to one in another mod, but the priority of the rule set in the mod determines which mod's AI rule will actually take effect.

So it's not amazing to have 5 mods effecting construction, but the game won't crash.

I know in the description you say that this should be compatible with all AI overhaul mods, but how exactly would they work together? Deepwar apparently has building construction changes, so it would be a matter of one overwriting the other?

Thanks!

I haven't heard any reports that anything is broken. I'm semi out of action for just a few more days, though. I'll take a closer peak sometime around Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.

Hello, you updated the other mods but this not, you will update it or isnt needed?

Thanks.

Official answer: Unclear, my PC is dead until Thursday evening. :sadface:

Guess based on history and patch notes: 95% chance it works fine.

Will this work with the new ai changes?

this mod has always worked for me, must be an incompatibility

Varg: I have no idea what could cause that but I will keep my eyes open for issues.

Side note: My PC should be back up on Thursday but I'm going to game for a week before I look into bug reports.

this mod is the only one that do not let me launch the game dont know why

Yeah, I always play on Impossible myself but I'm trying more immersive mods this time around, in addition to Incas AI mods. I've been finding that the AI here has difficulty handling control without it's bonuses and a more immersive control mod.

No worries, though. Just throwing that out to you.

I've got my PC semi working again but I probably won't be touching my mods until I put a new motherboard in. It may take a while but I'll respond to any issues once I'm fully stable again.

@MartialDoctor I don't really have a priority on control buildings. I generally assume people are playing on difficulties where they aren't needed, but some people play with AI PO bonuses turned off or on lower difficulties so I'll try to cook up something once I have a new mobo in.

I have had no crashing since I've started with the mod. I've played 40+ turns so far.

Is anyone having crashes like one user reported? My computer is down right now but i can look into qurstions when i am back online.

Although it does look like I made a mistake by not reading through the whole description thoroughly. I was also running AI Military Construction System at the same time. I'll make sure to not do that in the future.