Hi DetVisor,
as eager as I am for the 1.6 update, this post isn't about that. (Seriously, though - when? ;p )

No, it's about the 'Athena Framework' that this mod depends on.
I looked through my mod list, and if I haven't overlooked anything, 'Glitter Weaponry' is the last one that requires that framework.
Other mods that originally did (e.g. the awesome 'Ion Weaponry (Continued)') have managed to integrate Athena's code into the mod itself.

As I try to keep my mod list as small as possible (unsuccessfully), it would be great if you could also try to eliminate this framework's dependency.
What do you think the chances are of this happening?

Thank you for your great mods!
Deggial

(P.S. I hope, the exams went well!?)

Is there a public priority list of what you update and create @DetVisor? I would love to know if this specific mod is planned to be updated or replaced.
Anyway, I'm glad your schedule allows you back at modding, I love your work.

Putting it in my faves for when the 1.6 update comes around.

Fuggin' Lit.

My once a year comment on a DetVisor mod: (Nothing to do with 1.6 obviously). Love your mods, cant wait to see them rolling out and good luck with the exams!

Awesome! :)

And good luck with the exams!

Of course I'm still active, just been busy with exams. I plan to update everything to 1.6 later on.

Even if there are no comments since Dec. 2024, there is still interest in this mod.

DetVisor, are you still active in the modding scene?
Do you plan to update it to 1.6?

Just so people know, Athena Framework is currently bugged. For me and many others It causes Rimworld to crash when trying to load new and/or existing saves!

they don't do much damage against mechs because of vanilla armour vs penetration calculation. Weapons are heat damage, mechs have 200% heat resist. Armour gets melted by 80%, now it gets down to 120%. Now the kick in the nuts, laser carbine has at legendary level about 40% penetration as in 80% of damage against mech 120% gets either deflected or mitigated. Militors are becoming real tanks because of this

Is it normal that these weapons do no damage against mechs?

Tripling what the others said, the laser destructor is intensely useless. Even in the incredibly niche scenarios you would consider it, it's drastically outperformed by the other VWE - Heavy weapons (all of which are craftable). With how low the range is and how high the miss radius is, you could quadruple the damage and still find it hard to compete with the others. This is also true of the heavy weapon from Impact Weaponry.

Doubling what @Unex said, the scatterer pellets mostly hit cover and friendlies right in front of you, even with friendly fire turned to 0%.

@ZAX from my understanding of the weapons in this mod, it sounds like while it may not do a lot of damage, it will shred a lot of armor quickly? I have not gotten it myself, so I can't say for certain how well it performs, or if it manages to do this or not xD

Could recipes for the weapons be added, using materials added in Glitterworld Uprising ?

I wonder what the destructor is used for? It barely deals any damage to enemy infantry in my testing, is there something wrong with how I use it?

You're welcome, and thank you.

Found this from the Credits section on the Nephilim Xenotype mod page. Instant addition to my list. I really like the graphics you made for this, they feel like a seamless continuation of vanilla Rimworld. Thank you for keeping this up to date Det.

Updated to 1.5.

Don't worry, it will.

Hope this mod gets updated to 1.5. Really love that Saber.

Why make the friendly fire and cover restrictions not work for these (laser scatterer was used), the extra pellets that fire can hit friendlies AND your cover even if you are next to them. No point in using cover and makes them really scary (and annoying/frustrating) to use in a group, melee blocking is out of the question.

Easy solution is to just make the weapon fire a lot more bullets at infinite rpm like the charge sniper rifle from VE-Weapons.

You're welcome! Glad you enjoy them.

Just wanted to say I really like these, they are really fun to play with and I find that they're oddly good at often downing rather than killing because of the hediff pain increase, making them a great weapons for capture. Thank you very much for your mods :)

Update's out, tell me if anything else shows up.

Will fix, thanks for reporting.

So, funny thing, turns out your laser damageDef overwrites one from JecsTool, generating errors when a mod tries to patch buildingDamage on it (since you already have it). Would you be so kind as to prefix your damage's defname to avoid further conflict?
Kick-ass mods btw, love your art style, keep'em coming!

This mod causes a warning on startup:
Some mod is using downedHitChance which is deprecated and no longer in use. Please contact the mod's author and ask him to remove the said field.
Log: https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/1125b56b144b3e43c7bafe1130ac405f

Since the Glitterworlders CREATE Mechanoids,I think they'll need some real firepower to deal with rogue machines.

A problem about Armor Melt is that it only applies if the weapons are already dealing damage.This makes the heat laser weapons(especially the Destructor)weak against Mechanoids,since they only have a small chance to hurt a non-melted Mechanoid.
Plus the weapons can have some more AP so they can blast through steel like butter

@Unmitigated Disaster

Friendly fire chance also doesn't seem to affect the bullets.

Do like the idea of this level of guns, but I have a problem where my pawns kill each other constantly when using these, the normal 'grace' distance for friendly fire doesn't seem to apply with these. Is that intentional as part of balance or something that I'm doing wrong or have broken with another mod?

@Loepio Theoretically it should be the same sort of level if not better.
@Derkinstacker It applies on hit, not sure why it's not happening on your side, any errors?

Not a mod conflict issue, it's a mistake on my part, should be fixed soonish when the mod is updated.

Not sure if this matters but I seem to be getting this in my logs when using the mods: XML Verse.DamageDef defines the same field twice: buildingDamageFactorImpassable. Only seems to apply to Stun / emp explosion can't for the life of me figure out which mod it might be conflicting with.

how does the laser saber compare to a monosword or a the laser sword from vwe laser ?

So how do you get the melted armour to show up? I can apply it using dev tools, but shooting or attacking doesn't seem to apply it.

The shotgun won't work, but I assume every other weapon will be fine.

If I don't use the framework will this still work?

Oh awesome to hear!

The CE team just patched this mod, just a heads up :p

It's intentional, as the pawn is downed. The creator of the framework says that the "point blank at downed" will be fixed in the next update,

Ok @snootbooper, should be fixed, do update me if it isn't.

for me* not for more

@Banana Creamer The mod is only for 1.4. The number written in the description is the version of the mod which I update every time I change or add something.

@Doc Cams That is odd, it seemed to work fine for more, I'll do a bit of extra testing.

@OriginalHammy You should be fine adding these, these weapons are all uncraftable which makes them hard to find, balancing out the stats.

@snootbooper I see, I'll fix the issue soon, apologies.

@DetVisor yeah, one error log with "Laser_Saber has no class. This is a misconfiguration with Glitter Weaponry" Disabled the mod and all works fine now. Not necessarily walking backwards but pawn sprite was locked to looking left ∴ looked like they were walking backwards when going in certain directions

Hi, I love the look of this weapons, but am worried about balance and clutter when I already have the other vanilla expanded weapon mods. Should I be fine with adding this?

mod is tagged as red in the mods tab. says it relies on athena framework even when the athena framework is already there.

Is this compatible with 1.4? Tag says yes, written description doesn't

Assuming you're not joking (how can updating a sword make a pawn walk backwards?) do you have any logs with errors?