what i'd like is for the metal spears to be compatible with forged spearheads.

Thank you for the information. And thank you for the great work in this mod.

@Dester - Nope. But they are pretty rare given they only appear in certain places. If you want rarer, you can manually edit the distributions.lua, but bare in mind you'll need to make a backup of your changes, coz an update will overwrite them

Does the mod allow modifying how rare the spears might spawn in world?

I'm seeing that you're correct. Sorry for the misreport.

@Lazier Than Thou - Mod is not bugged, it follows the same mechanics as vanilla weapons. For the record, the metal spear with large knife has a durability of 12, and an 1 in 12 chance of durability loss per hit. The fire-hardened spear has a durability of 7 and a 1 in 4 chance to lower.

Maintenance affects durability by some whacked out formula that that is often misrepresented, and misinterpreted. It is not simply adding a set value. Iunno the specifics but it is something along the lines of the value being halved, rounded down, then added back or whatever, so that only even numbers are true.

The same applies to the weapon skill level, but it's hit harder and only level 4 and 8 are true.

I think this might be bugged. I have level 10 maintenance and level 3 spear, but the Metal Spear with Large Knife takes durability loss almost every other hit. I have another mod that gives a detailed look at weapon stats and it's telling me that I should have a 1/(12 + 10) chance of losing durability, but it drops very quickly. It seems to have the same durability as a fire hardened spear.

Does the mod allow modifying how rare the spears might spawn in world?

@Monkey I figured it out, thank you!

@Cozmo. No, one recipe but there are multiple versions that can be crafted from it.

@Monkey Aha i see one pipe spear was added by this mod, correct?

@Cosmo - I just checked, mod is working fine. Type "spear" into the crafting menu. It should be the one at the bottom, "Improvise Pipe Spear." I believe there is a setting to hide recipes one does not know, so it could be you are playing with that switched on.

@Monkey hm seems like mod doesn't working, i don't see receipts in the crafting menu.

@Cosmo - Nope these are craft in hand IIRC. Haven't played PZ in a while though

Hey @Monkey Magic u need anvil to craft them?

@Oach - There is no baseline metal spear because there are multiple baseline metal spear mods available already. I decided not to include one in this mod so players can opt to use one of those if they wish

As for the other matter, I did not want to make wooden spears redundant completely, so I purposefully made the metal versions not able to do this.

@ShampooMoo - It's possible another mod is causing the issue or something, but iunno. Maybe try searching for a different keyword? The build and craft menus are finicky and awkward

For some reason it doesn't appear to be working for me, I cannot see the recipe in the crafting menu. Since on my server I've already gotten level 4 spears/maintenance as well as having already read the magazine, i tried making a fresh server and reading the magazine, still nothing in the crafting menu other than the usual spear recipes.

Thank you for creating this mod! Have you considered expanding the recipes? Maybe one day including

1. A baseline "metal spear"? Comperable to the wooden spear but relying on the Welding skill?

2. Allowing Metal Spear Heads to be attached to metal rods/spear? (*insert Mandalorian flute sound here* )

Thanks!

@MiyaBera - They use the same system as vanilla, so it is basically a chance of loss every time it's used, offset by player weapon/maintenance level. This is represented by "ConditionMax" and "ConditionLowerChanceOneIn" For example:

Suppose we have a spear called Metal spear with magical paperclip The paperclip is ridiculously weak, so it has a max value of 1. If the condition lowers on the paperclip spear, it will break. However, coz it's a magic paperclip, we'll give it a lower chance of 1 in 100. With such a high pool, it's unlikely to roll a 1, so despite it's inherent weakness it will most likely last a good amount of time.

That's essentially how weapon durability works in PZ. You could check the files to see specifically which spear is better than another, but it's pretty intuitive. Magic paperclip aside, if it's made from a stronger item, it will likely be more durable.

I'm currently using the mod in B41, added mid save. The spears work perfectly fine, and they are awesome! No errors.

Since it's rare to see an author actually respond to comments like this, I have one more question @Monkey Magic.

How does the durability of the spears work? I assume you used a similar system to vanilla, where the condition of the added knife affects the condition and damage of the crafted spear. But how exactly does this work? Would love to learn which knifes are the best to collect and which spears last the longest.

Thanks for the amazing mod and for responding fast!

@MiyaBera - Meaning, there is no specific recipe to learn . There is a vanilla recipe - Bind Spear - that unlocks a number of vanilla spear related recipes, and I've used that as a base to unlock metal spears.

They will also auto-unlock without reading the book that holds that recipe at Tier 4 in Spears or Maintenance regardless.

I don't understand what "there is no specific recipe" means. Can you explain that?

Does it randomly choose the recipe? I surely need something metal. I just wanna make sure it is easily craftable and doesn't take 5 metal bars and 10 ducktape haha.

Thanks for the mod!

Awesome! Thanks so much for the clarification, and much appreticated in making this mod given the harsh nerfs spears got in b42. Cheers :).

@OxTailSafu - they can't be repaired in B41. In B42 they can, since they follow the same mechanic as wooden spears. I'll look into the sharpness thing...

EDIT - So I looked into the sharpness thing, and they were already set to be sharpenable (barring the hand-fork since the vanilla one isn't either) and turns out there was a small script error making it not work.

Have updated now, and the majority should be sharpenable now.

@OxTailSafu - they can't be repaired in B41. In B42 they can, since they follow the same mechanic as wooden spears. I'll look into the sharpness thing, not sure if it applies coz that usually refers to the spear head, and these don't have separate parts ones crafted

Do you think there's any way you can let the spears be sharpened? I understand not letting them be repairable, but once you get to later levels of maintenance you end up in a situation where the condition of the weapon doesn't run out anywhere near as fast. Meanwhile, your sharpness meter seems to still decrease.

Also i'm not sure if it's an issue on my end, but I can still seemingly repair the spears despite the mod saying they can't.

ty for reply and explanation Monkey:), i will look into it!

@ThanVanMon - First of all, check the recipes.

The default is that all recipes are available to see, even if you can not craft them. You can search "spear", and the last option should be "Improvise Pipe Spear" which is the spear recipe for this mod. The items you need are listed in the recipe, with options depending on what you have on hand. Be sure to have the required items in your inventory in order to craft.

The tool-tip states crafting requires Maintenance level 2 - if you have found the meta recipe, you can craft early. The meta recipe is "Bind Spear" a vanilla recipe found in Wilderness Survival Guide . This unlocks two vanilla spear crafting recipes, and this recipe.

Otherwise, you'll auto-learn at Maintenance or Spears level 4. If you are not able to learn the recipe at your Maintenance level, maybe you installed the mod after reaching that level. This could conceivably prevent the auto-learn, so you'll need to find the book.

Hope this helps

hmm iam lvl 5 in maintenance and still cant make it, iam soing something wrong perhaps or dont have the right stuff in inventory. What is it i need for it?

@ThanVanMon - there is no specific recipe. They should unlock when you learn the vanilla Bind Spear Recipe. Failing that, they will unlock at lvl 4 in Spears, or Maintenance

hmm why cant i find this recipe?

@silverlance - I'll look into it later today, but since the model is based on the vanilla wooden versions, if there's an animation issue, it's likely vanilla.

EDIT - Okay, so I fixed this. The range on that particular spear was typo'd to be shorter than it should have been. I also went ahead and updated the world attachment settings, so spears should no longer look like they are sinking into the ground when dropped.

@silverlance - I'll look into it later today, but since the model is based on the vanilla wooden versions, if there's an animation issue, it's likely vanilla.

I haven't checked the other window, but metal spear with large knife will swing the second attack into the air.

@BuddaSan - I've now fixed the issue caused by B42.2 update It may have had something to do with the devs tweaking spears (see notes on the update) but to be honest iunno WTF happened with it. It's all good to go now, and I also added the missing Metal Spear with Fighting Knife

This Mod crash the Game since B42.2 Why? I don't know! But with die Mod activ the game won't start!

@Kisheen - There was no dissemble option for these spears in B41 either. I kept to this in B42, and added the command to break down into a broken pipe intentionally, so wooden spears do not become completely obsolete.

Could benefit from an added recipe (for b42) to dismantle the spear to component parts like the normal spears to repair/replace the spearheads. Either that, or a way to smelt the full spear down to iron chunks. As it stands, the only way to recycle a broken metal spear is to break either head or handle and get back a broken pipe instead.

@Loot Bukkake - Yeah, I checked. Minimap and dash are fine. Didn't think it would cause an issue. So yeah, tell the author of whatever mod you saw they need to redo their recipes to the new system ;)

@Monkey Magic That's exactly the issue, and essentially what I was asking; "Is this mod structured for the new recipe system". Sounds like it is so I will look forward to testing it!

@Loot Bukkake - I'd to check, since I don't usually play with the minimap. But yeah, I don't see how recipes would affect the car dashboard interface, or minimap TBH. My guess is whatever mod you saw was trying to use the old recipe system - coz yeah, that won't work - the recipe system has been overhauled. It was a pain to figure out XD

From what I understand, anything touching the B42 build/craft menu breaks the minimap and car dashboard ui. Does this work with the new crafting menu?

I find it a little amusing to see the two Monkeys here.

I see, that makes sense. Thanks!

@Monkey - Yes. While a basic spear makes sense for wooden weaponry, as the most primitive version is better than nothing; the same does not really apply for a metal spear. By the time one is able to craft metal spears, it makes sense to skip a basic version when one likely has one or more of the available options on hand.

Additionally, since there were already two "Metal Spear" mods out there, I figured making a "default" metal spear for this mod would be redundant for players using either one of those mods.

Thanks for this, was looking for a quality metal spear mod to fight off those sprinters.

Just a question, is there a reason why there's no "Pointy" Metal Spear (with no knife, screwdriver etc at the end). I think it would be cool if there's one like that with slightly lower damage and slightly lower durability.

@Tormound - Yes.

All the weapon/armour mods I have added have some limitation, because otherwise why would anyone use vanilla weaponry?

Cavalry Sabre and Aluminum Bat can be repaired, but they can't be crafted and must be found in the found. These weapons are well balanced with their vanilla counterparts, so keeping the around for as long as one can repair them is fine.

None of the weapon from Antique Armament be be crafted or repaired. These weapons/armour are pretty powerful, and outshine all vanilla weaponry. This is why they can only be found in the world, and once broken can not be repaired.

For Metal Spears , they can be crafted, but the materials are more expensive that the vanilla counterpart. This is to balance out their durability, and also why they can't be repaired.

Was there a reason why they're not repairable?

Looks neat. Definitely trying this. Thank you for your creation. ^_^