Perfect, thank you

Good catch. I'll see what I can do about it at some point.

I would like to report that this mod indirectly causes npcs from different factions to aggro each other, as if a npc belonging to a faction not allied to the town's faction attacks you because they caught you sneaking around, the town's guards will attack said npc and not you.

@Sullis, Thank you very much, my friend!

@zeMantras Hope you like it. Thieving is a little more interesting now for sure.

Legend, this mod is great, i love mods like this but make the experience harder. Sofar havent had much issues cause i hardly use sneak anyway, and having this on just forces me to not press that button :) i might consider actually doing a thief run with this, something havent done wen i first played kenshi years ago

That's awesome. I will send you the bounty to your PayPal, thank you sir!

I shall claim that bounty. The mod now allows what you requested. Thanks!

If there are any issues with it, let me know and I'll sort it out.

$50 bounty to whoever makes the in-town reaction to sneaking less severe. I get caught sneaking 1 second and the guards will aggro me repeatedly even if I have been downed and gotten back up several times. Is it possible to at least not incur a bounty from it?

This would be perfect if they gave warnings in the city like they do for trespassing.

I disagree 100% with "If you get warned the mod looses it's meaning". Sneaking is sus, not an overt assassination attempt on Lord Tengu himself, in broad daylight, in the middle of town.

Getting spotted trying to sneak shouldn't instantly aggro the entire city and surrounding locale. It should be met with a "stop that" and THEN it be considered a crime. The frame work is already there for trespassing. You could make the "stop doing that" timer super short. like 1-2 seconds and then they all aggro.

I also 120% disagree with sneaking being sus, at all, outside of towns. It is a harsh, unforgiving, world in Kenshi and I often sneak to avoid hostiles but almost never steal. Obviously this isn't inside a town, but it shouldn't be any of the guards dang concern if I am crouch walking around a sand dune or in the middle of a jungle if it's outside their walls.

I get that ultimately it's your mod. You do you. But there is a reason so many people are pointing this out as an issue and asking for options.

I discovered an issue where some NPCs are being caught in Sho-Battai for theft, even though no theft occurred. Strangely, it mostly happens to Tech Hunters.

can't you offer a light version where in towns warning are given initially and outside towns it's deactivated?

(that said, this does kind of open up a strategy where one fast runner can crouch to bait the guards into chasing them, then the actual thief can steal valuables at their leisure, not sure if that was intentional or not)

Cool idea, but accidentally crouching for a fraction of a second causes the entire town to collapse on my ass harder than Whiterun on a chicken puncher. It's like prison - the moment you bend down, everyone wants a piece of you. Shopkeepers sprint from their stores, gladly leaving their valuables unguarded for a chance to sprint several kilometers into untamed wilderness. Bar patrons abandon their drinks in a mad rush to be beaten over the head by cannibals beyond the gates of World's End. Shit, even the Shinobi Thieves rush out the moment they hear someone might have tried to move around without wearing a suit of plate armor that clanks like a Beak Thing's dinner bell. Isn't stealing their grift? Or have they abandoned half of their moniker and decided to clean drains instead, like Coca-Cola?

10/10 would crouch in a major city again, just wait until they hear about the Slav squat

Not at all, it's for everyone to enjoy in any way they see fit. Have a good one!

Hello. Your mod is great! I used it in my maksimum kenshi mod set, I hope you won't mind. I will definitely indicate your mod in the list of used mods. Thank you in advance.

I dunno, it turns the game harder but kind of breaks immersion for me. If the game had a feature that only one guard that catches you tried to take you to jail trough dialogue then sure, but going straight to blows with the whole town is kinda wack. It's a good idea either way, I just don't think the way kenshi works responds well to it. Can't even roleplay stalking someone in town without alerting the whole city into a fight.

That I probably can't help at the moment as the dialogue is fluff. You can however edit it and I think upload a mod with some actual dialogue.

i love this as a mechanic actually, just needs slightly less corny dialogue

Don't sneak in towns.

then how are you gonna check if you can sneak or not? cause sometime at night they can still see you or when you sleep you accidently press sneak?

If you get warned, the mod loses it's meaning. You can keep sneaking around and stop before capture, and then do it again.

need a warning they arrest too fast

Great, good work on the translation.

I'm always listing original author's names and providing a link to the original mod in my translations.

That's nice. You can set me up as a contributor I think in case someone would for some reason want to know that, but all is well.

Made a Russian translation for this mod.
If you have any issues with it existing, contact me.
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3340654919

Indeed, this is a wonderful mod! Definitely seems like it should be vanilla

10 out of 10 man, my god why is this not in the base game? I am experiencing catharsis right now. I love you.

Suggest giving the guards threat detection and give the players 6 seconds threat dialogue text warning to get off in stealth, maybe go as far as they'll follow you, talk icon pops up and you click them, option to bribe them to walk away in single stealth situations, the 6 seconds is for you to react, should i get off of stealth or bribe them to walk off, but if i get off of stealth, my cover from an enemy faction is open, options into plot

Thanks for the heads up. It might have something to do with how building privacy works, but there could be something I can do about it. I'll try to have a look at it at some point when I get a proper chance.

Did a little more testing. Seems as soon as you leave the building they attack. Not the case for all stores and buildings I tried. Sometimes they do attack while inside.

Using these mods

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2738571275

In squid aggroing the guards by sneaking causes the dialogue and them to become red, but they dont attack.

I think the reason I left it like that was because I would imagine in the world of Kenshi the guards would instantly be alarmed at someone sneaking around in their town. Outside of it they give you a warning.

tracking this. I would download, but arresting on sight upon sneak is too hard, maybe if they yell commands at you to stop and then arrest you after a while would be good, like how the shopkeepers become hostile when you stay in the store when they close

You're welcome!

Thank you! Such a pity that it does not rank higher in searching.

Hey! Yeah definitely, put it in there. I forgot to come back to this mod and polish it out after some tests, so feel free to make any changes necessary.

Hi i checked out the mod and it is amazing. Do I have your permission to merge it into a total overhaul mod I'm making? There seems to be some things to fix and I also need to remove the game start that comes with the mod, so I can't just put it in the collection. Thanks in advance; will be citing you and linking your work anyways.

Hgnnn this is what I've been LOOKING FOR

It is, but you will get a warning outside of town. I also added this mechanic to some squads that roam around the map, but it hasn't been fully implemented yet since I have been doing other stuff. But I will try to improve on it when I can now that I remember it.

Is sneaking sus outside of towns?

One of the best mods. Should have been present in original game

I think people didn't like getting arrested or attacked when accidentally going into a town sneaking, or then being let off with a warning every time they got caught, making the system sort of useless. I personally got used to it after a few minutes of playing and it's now a mechanic I really like.

I think I tried to add a system where if you sneak around any people anywhere they will get angry, but I need to improve on that. I will get on it now if I can.

This makes the world feel much more hostile. Should have been in vanilla.

Alright, so.

If you're inside town walls, and you're sneaking around, you will most likely get arrested. Exceptions are, if the guard is dumb, or, if you stop sneaking and the guard is the leader of the guards and has not seen you sneak around in a long while.

If you're outside the town walls and sneaking around, you will get a warning if you stop.If you do not stop, you will get arrested. If you get caught soon again, you will get arrested.

Right now with this mod the Guards straight up arrest you for sneaking. Would be possible to make then warn you first? I know UWE has a patch that does that, so maybe you can use it as an reference to implement something similar here?