So uhhhhh, is there proof of any wrongdoing or do I have to do all the legwork and/or believe what an internet stranger tells me? Literally came to check if this mod had anything updated about it and I'm met with obscure controversy that nobody is bothering to explain aside from "he said, she said" preschool whining.

wah wah they made a homphobic comment in their own mod destroy everything they've ever made and flay him alive wah wah

pedophilic comments? ive heard they are closed off assholes and very hostile people, but pedos? thats fucking nuts i hope thats not true

looks peak, but seems abandoned for a long time. I wonder if this will ever return.

Just stop being gay it's that simple

@kormoran explain whats 'historical' about an empire having legalised gay marriage resulting in a debuff, in the ELDER SCROLLS.

tamriel's history does not mirror real life.

homophobia has never been a thing in this world and you're a weirdo for trying to pretend it has been

I don't think it was cancelled by the EK team or anything.

But it's crazy to see how much 1 person (with some help I suppose) made so much. In comparison EK team are slow to release new content.

its a shame that the only reason this mod got cancelled by the weirdos was because he wanted to make EK2 more historical....
EK2 devs r the villains of this story they made every save that used this mod unplayable and crash your game.....

takes them years to update because of all the internal conflict they have in their dev team while on the surface they r a big accepting smiley face community (I'd know because i was a part of their dev team but i left because of all the pedophilic comments they were making)

Imperial Decay sounds like something that would be good in Vanilla.

This is what happens when you dont gatekeep a community enough. Parasites like that start infesting it and ruin it for every normal person

"one gay joke event"

okay, enough for today bro, back to licking boots for you

make one mod with gay joke an event and the entire community soy rages. genuinely the lamest modding community on the internet don't delude yourselves.

EK2 Devs are a bunch of fags and people should stay on their discord and jerk off to tranny porn or whatever is they do instead of malding in the comments.

@Grand Admiral Thrawn
Mod dosen't work and has been broken for years.

yes it works!

Does this mod work? It looks very good.

It only gets worse from here somehow.

Bruh, you guys just sent me down the biggest rabbit hole of the ck3 modding community. LOL

@javelin55 I dont know what kind of elder scrolls games you are playing but homophobia isnt really a thing in setting. Also making a mechanic that actively encourages you to kill gay characters for being gay would still be homophobic even if it was a feature of TES.

i helped with making parts of the mod, i was in contact with the dev for a good while. i dont think he was bullied away from modding, he just kind of stopped being online at some point, maybe decided to do real life stuff. as someone here said the mod wasnt destroyed

Your mod was one of the reasons why I started modding ck3. The ability to have a truly nuanced EK2 game is something we will most likely not see again any time soon.

good mod though

Devs of ek 2 are legit toxic people. I hope this mod gets uploaded to paradox plaza or loverslab or better yet, someone makes a different ek 2 mod.

the mod wasn't "destroyed" - it was abandoned by a shitty dev who talked shit and couldn't get hit

Okay, I ain't familiar with the drama surrounding this mod, I don't know if the mod author is Homophobic or not, but, as a Bi guy who is as far left as you can get, fucking over a mod because it added In-Lore Homophobia is stupid and wrong. If the modder was hateful, and did it for hateful reasons, that I kind of get, but even then, I see no reason to destroy this mod in the way that did happen.

Мод еще работает?

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why are the EK2 devs like this? Why cant they be normal???

I know this may come as a surprise to you, CosmiK, but a lot of people aren't apathetic egoists who only care about themselves.

no way some players actually geeking that theres a gay debuff😭

@hamsterdoom360 : Yes, search for Rebound - Ruin system for EK2

Is there a mod that only adds the excavations? I don't really give a hoot about edicts, disasters, or all that other stuff. ._.

OH and by the way, before you rag on about "code transparency", just know what your trying to twist as malicious behavior is a common thing, modders and gamedevs add all kinds of unannounced easter eggs, secrets, changes, whatever the hell all the time and all your doing is just beating a dead horse of a man whose had his name dragged through the fucking mud by a community he just wanted to be part of.

how are people still arguing about this its been years and admittedly what was done to the mod author was an injustice, this guy put in effort to make your game better for free and you people want to anklebite and sandbag him, attribute his code to "malware like behavior" over a pointless and contemporary political issue.

you want to know what "malware like behavior" is? it's thousands of dollars in your bank account going missing, it's your phone number getting pinged with countless verification codes and your accounts nolonger being accessible to you not hiding what a trait really does to your character in a videogame so you don't what your talking about shimmer end of story

"malware like behavior"
ok forget the gay debuff now THAT is based

@Shimmer
Если не затруднит, объясни подробно, в чем суть спора, я вижу это так, LGBT просто ущемились из-за мода, где добавили последствие гомосексуальных связей среди персонажей в игре, что по факту, вполне реалистично

@Shimmer
Честно сказать, я не вникал в суть. Если это было просто скрыто и нигде не упоминалось, то да, это плохо, если это отдельная настройка которую можно включить по желанию, то почему бы и нет. Все же гомофобия хоть и неадекватное явление, но имеет место быть, в играх в том числе, и да, я абсолютно толерантен к LGB людям

@Sly Kitsune

Адекватный человек не тратить время прятать дебаф в своём моде. Это уже ваша обсессия с нами - до такой степени что чев о нас думаль когда делал мод который с нами не связан

причём он это прятал, если тот же дебаф был на нордах или имперцав, вы эту фичу по имени бы называли - псевдовирус, мод делает что то необъяснимое и с ним не связанное

Keep in mind - none of this was stated to be a feature anywhere.

I don't think its that crazy of a thing to say that mods shouldn't hide debuffs in their code and do stuff they don't explicitly state to do. This wouldn't fly if it were to apply to anything else - like debuffing people for playing Nords or Imperials, but the moment its the gays it becomes acceptable for some reason.

People are willing to defend malware like behavior if its to own those darn queers, and thats incredibly funny lol

The homosexuality debuff was applied to your imperial decay modifier if you employed homosexuals at your court period.

You could make the case that historically certain cultures were homophobic and thus characters of those cultures would discriminate against them. However, this is the game itself, not an ingame character, punishing the player for harboring homosexuals.

However, as mallerik pointed out, none of this applies to Elder Kings. So yeah, definitely put in out of personal conviction - no other way to read it.

is the gay marriage thing of malicious intent by the modder or is it meant to be subjects worrying about the possibility of no heirs? maybe it should go away if there is a guaranteed heir?

Tbh the problem is that in ck3 the sexuality is just known and open, but just useless beyond fertility or seduction scheme blocks. Gay and married with kids was great in that sense. Meant no bastards to mess up the established order actually. in IRL or fiction

Feudalism and dynastism were ironically preferable alternatives to post-imperial warlordism. Lineage is stability, against the rule of might makes right. Less issues when rulers dies, with a set inheritance, everybody swore on honor the feudal oath or had contract and had a cabinet position ready. But that all meant needing kids.

Госпаде, в очередной раз ЛГБТ ущемились на ровном месте. Когда вы уже поймете, адекватным людям плевать кто вы и с кем спите, просто не надо это выставлять напоказ и представлять чем то значимым.

1: For something to be historically accurate, it needs to be history first.

2: You can say a lot about the Elder Scrolls - hell, it's racist as f@ck. But they're surprisingly progressive when it comes to sexuality and gender.

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Honestly I don't care one way or another about the gay thing, maybe he should've made it a game rule you could turn on and off?
I just want the archaeology/ruin exploration system from this back. It was really fun to take your character and fund or join expeditions into the dark dungeons and see what you'd get. would make even more sense with the new adventurer lifestyles and actions to be able to explore the ruins and dungeons of Tamriel.

kormoran, my brother in faith

This mod has dragons, necromancers, time/reality travel and gods made from brass. Adding homophobia to the mod doesn't make it """historically accurate"""" - it just makes it homophobic.

Yes, the modder is the hateful one.

Get a grip.

jesus was jewish and is a prophet of islam as well, so thats not saying much either. i think he was thinking of irl slaneesh worshipers

"they worship a religion of hate or intolerancy" are you discussing islam or christianity, or both. self-own