边缘世界 RimWorld

边缘世界 RimWorld

VRE - Buffed Genie
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DodoMans 7 月 17 日 下午 11:21 
thats why they added the super cheap and easy to make antibiotics, that give them immunity gain stronger than that of a normal pawn
GhostLiner  [作者] 7 月 16 日 下午 12:01 
@PremierVader It's a simple XML patch, it should be working for 1.6 (and 1.5 for that matter), but sure I'll update it when I can
PremierVader 7 月 16 日 上午 11:33 
1.6 please
Fixedit 2023 年 4 月 26 日 上午 7:10 
Just use a vanilla genie this mod fixes another
FeralFerret 2023 年 3 月 9 日 下午 3:07 
Infinitely better than the original, thanks.
Renegaiden 2022 年 12 月 21 日 下午 11:56 
Yeah, these dudes being as sturdy as wet paper is fine. But the complete removal of an immune system doesn't make sense even from a sci-fi standpoint. It's like immediately imploding because you caught a cold, something that happens to literally everybody.

The advent of sterile environments and insta-cure drugs is neither here nor there. Not having an immune system literally means you shouldn't even live past age 5, ultratech or no ultratech.
GhostLiner  [作者] 2022 年 12 月 19 日 上午 4:44 
@Lennybolt7 Yes the genes are still in the game ! It just removes them from the Xenotype.
Lennybolt7 2022 年 12 月 18 日 下午 9:11 
Are the genes still in game though? Can I still use the removed ones for custom xenos?
ParasiticSquid 2022 年 12 月 15 日 下午 6:17 
Here's another option for cherry picker users like me that gives the added bonus of being able to remove the extra bloat anti-biotics as well: You can disable gene defs in cherry picker and even though a xenotype has that gene it will no longer use/generate with it as long as cherry picker has it disabled.

In my case the genes were slow diseases, no immunity, and anti biotics resitance. This makes the VRE genies generate without those genes but you can also go through and disable all the VRE genies anti biotics while in cherry picker as well. Get's the same effect as this mod but more of a DIY without having to install something else if you already have cherry picker and don't like the bloat drugs. Then again if the immunity/medical genes are disabled or removed from the genies then you basically don't need the VRE genies drugs anyways so comes full circle lol

Just a heads up for those curious
Salty Slothy 2022 年 12 月 15 日 上午 1:38 
@rizon this version is objectively better though. The immunity stuff was at best, a failed idea. Which is fine, shit happens. I like the idea of the egg head race being an immuno compromised group that is SUPPOSED to live in a sterile environment. But between the antibiotic requirement and slowed diseases it was just a mess.
Sera 2022 年 12 月 14 日 下午 7:02 
I will have to remember this. I want to try and work with how they are out of the box but ya it makes no sense why they have those negatives. Like sure you could argue something like "Oh their brain power ages them faster" or "the frailness makes them bleed more." but the get sick one and the slower immunity with the boosted immunity. Like ok does it do nothing or was it desperately trying to make it hit zero?
Oskar Potocki 2022 年 12 月 14 日 下午 12:57 
Appreciate the title change! :)
GhostLiner  [作者] 2022 年 12 月 14 日 上午 11:25 
Welp changed it to "Buffed", I initially just titled it "Better" because it was a bit smaller for the preview pic lol

Anyway I like the original design as a challenge too, I just know that for the first few playthroughs I'll be ok with it but then I'll probably be a bit annoyed to have to manage genies further down the line, so this is essentially a patch I'm making to try my hand at patches and for future playthroughs.

And also I find it kind of funny because in my mind superintelligent genies would likely see this flaw and remove it. And since you can kinda play the original mod and extract any genies you find to recreate this version, I would assume most people that access xenogene equipement would think of the same idea.
1Z Rison 2022 年 12 月 14 日 上午 11:05 
I do not "hate" on this mod for simplifying the genies and/or "messing" with the thought-out plan the VE devs had in mind. I'd like to put that upfront.
Also, because some people will probably think just that sort of thing.

The only thing irritating me is the title. Claiming that yours are just "better" seems a bit.. eh?
I'd suggest calling them "Streamlined Genie" or the like. It would give less attack vector to someone wanting to complain about your mod "insulting" the original or whatever.

I think the essence of your description, that is that the disease/immunity/antibiotics spiel is essentially self contained and exists as a layer of challenge, is a good statement.