@DaddyPlease, it is probably possible, but I don't know how to do it

Is it.. possible that I could probably use the weapon AND the animations from Fancy Handwork? I vividly remember being able to do something of the sort. If so, would it still deal the same damage?

yeah, i keep hoping that it comes back to the base game too, maybe after this big push they are doing for animals, npcs, and sustainability? if not though, then yeah, a simple mod to recreate it (or even make something better maybe, i could easily see finding books, mags, videos, and equipment to unlock more advanced unarmed attacks and such) would be quite nice, and could even pair with something like Donazo's wraps quite nicely.

@Infinitetech No way, that's so cool. I really hope they or someone with more know-how than I, could re implement this. It absolutely should be viable, 250lbs 5'10 boxer throwing a punch would absolutely do damage to them equivalent to being hit with an object from a person of sleight-er build. You can already build your strength and fitness in game, and I play with More traits adding Martial Arts, which is just damage on the shove. I've been absolutely dying for a mod like this or Brutal Handwork to come back. Or, in a perfect world, them to reintroduce it to vanilla. Either way, I love whoever does it lmao.

@Donazo, I will. I'll do a serious search and post what I find. Kudos to you for your intellect and working it out.

Yeah, they originally planned for players to be able to punch when unarmed, with shoving being a secondary action, but, super early indev they found that the balance of it was broken, and they (at that time) could not find a way to balance a non-durability related combat system, especially when it logically should be the lowest stamina, and they did not want to cause inflicted damage to the player per swing. They left the parts in, but it has been mostly gutted for a long time. There are even a few descriptors and items left in the game from when they planned on adding it fully, but just as random gubbins now. Heck, for at least a couple betas there were even wip perks for getting Strong Arm, Karate Kid, and a few other things that made unarmed combat VERY viable lol.

@Peter Hemingway, if you do find something on the animations please let me know. I know the animations exist, but I have no idea how to play them. When I made this mod it was basically backwards-engineering and trial and error. There isn't (or wasn't) much documentation on the code itself.

@Donazo, also, I don't know if you already knew, but the three punch animations that are present in Brutal Handwork are actually vanilla and already in the game. The player just cannot perform them for some reason, but they were not made externally. I could do some digging and see if I could work out any more info for you on that, but I hope that helps somehow. I remember using a tool to view the animations myself to see if I could work it out yonks ago, but alas, I failed.

@Donazo, That's incredible and just what I wanted to hear, thank you! Appreciate the work you've done on this. If you need any suggestions of things to include (such as weaponry additional to handwraps, dusters, wraps, punch daggers, trench knives etc) or any help bug-testing or the like, I'd love to help. Absolutely passionate about this haha.

Either way, thank you for your quick response and cheers for having great taste haha.

@Peter Hemingway, I do think I'll update it to 42 at somepoint. I'm not sure how to add the animations but Ill probably wait for B42 to be out before updating it.

Any chance at all of you updating this for 42 with punching animations? The dude with Fancy Handwork and Brutal Handwork who credits you, hasn't gone near the page this year. Boxer in real life, and it feels so alien to not be able to throw punches.

No worries if not, love this concept and cheers for making it in the first place :)

I've talked to the guy from fancy handwork before. He actually used my calculations and mod for inspiration on how he implemented unarmed in that game. You can see him credit me in the change notes. So using his mod is probably a pretty good substitute if you want the animations.

fancyhandwork *

maybe ya you could reach out to the owner of the mod handwork and see if they can help implement the wraps with their mod, so we can get the animation with the wraps @Donazo

@MakuBexx, first line of the description says it isn't yet

is this available for b42?

@Smiley247365, yes, they function mechanically the same as other melee weapons for durability.

do the weapons have HP?

thanks i will

@Deathhead, sure! Just make sure to credit it

Would it be alright if I add your mod to a modpack for my server?

https://youtu.be/32FVY8U4Xlg

@crappypoopy17, I gotta figure out how to make it work for 42

the punch anim ain t going

@=WL=CompoundDuck255, it should show up in the same place you craft the other ones. If you're trying to craft it by right clicking materials in your inventory youll need all the items for the option to show up. I can assure you there's no issue on the mods end as I haven't updated it in months and haven't had any other complaints like that. I hope you can figure out what's wrong. Goodluck.

@Donazo I have it enabled, since i can craft the normal ones that are cloth, but i just cannot see the reinforced ones

@=WL=CompoundDuck255, please ensure the mod is active. Unless there is somehow an interaction with another mod (which is very unlikely). You probably just did not enable it.

I can't seem to find the Reinforced Fist Wraps recipie, nor can i craft it even though i have the materials. Is this a bug?

@I AM MAD, it works like any other blunt weapons. However, I suggest checking out Brutal Handywork by the same author (Dhert). They used my mod as a baseline for the unarmed attack in that (look at their change notes - I'm credited there. Ofc if you don't want to add all the extra stuff from that, my mod is still a good lightweight system to use.

does this mod work with fancy handywork fist punches?

@Vrk_L, to take full advantage of master wraps or any of the fist weapons you need high short blunt skill with them.

@Vrk_L, I assure you the master wraps are much stronger than the others. I can't remember the exact numbers, but they crit higher, swing faster and do more crit damage I believe.

Is it normal that the damage it's the same for all the gloves? I thought that it would increase by a bit, not that much, maybe the master wraps being the same as a hammer. Does it increase the crit probability on each one?

@AWDSKILL, if the mod is installed and activated it should show up where normal recipes do. Just clicking a stack of cloth will show the option to make them.

Help, how can I get the gloves, it doesn't appear in the area to make

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out. (Sorry for the late reply)
The only thing from that mod that might appeal to me is custom animations, but on the off chance it doesn't have any I'll probably look elsewhere.

I also don't know if it's any good, but it exists.

@Jenzy, there's a mod out there for that, I don't really want to promote it since they obviously named it to try and leech off my mod but look up fisticuffs, you'll find it.

could you perhaps be able to craft brass knuckles in future updates?
would be a great idea to implement, in my opinion.

@maxnumtownoi, I've never modded careers before, it probably wouldn't be too hard but I'm not currently modding zomboid.

@Manic, I don't know. It works like normal blunt weapons. If normal blunt weapons work with that mod then they would.

Does this mod work with the CQC mod

why you don make boxing career

@nic I haven't changed anything about this mod so that should show up. Could be another mod you have installed messing with it, otherwise you can find it in the crafting menu manually (or should be able to). Also make sure the mod is actually enabled.

I'm not seeing the option to craft them when I right click on a stack of sheets. Is that still the crafting method?

@Adoll't the other mods are linked in the description and if you look up the name of the mod you'll find them all too.

can you put the fist mods into a collection to easily find your other mods please?

i will say that the protection part, tho not easily noticeable in a short run, (when the game wants a run to die early... there is not a lot one can do about it...) but becomes very apparent and nice in a long game, or if you happen to try and do anything with sharp objects. honestly, proper gloves that don't hinder you would be such a boon in this game. but the wraps are a good option for defensive gear

@ProgSupreme, it functions as a weapon but is very easy to make and can also provide protection (if you add the visible wraps add-on).

Is this something you wear or equip on hands? So like lets say I dont have my axe equipped, then having me sort of wearing them means I can use them without looking through my inventory to equip them, meaning at all times I can resort to hand to hand combat

@Donazo, lo intenté pero no logro hacerlo funcionar. Me quedo con tu mod.

@Allerai, (Google Translate) Hay un mod con guantes de boxeo que funcionan. Busque guantes de boxeo en el taller.