Out of curiosity, wouldn't it be better if you have to directly own states to create formables, as currently, if you do a puppet heavy game let's say, then those puppets can start forming them. Especially bad with something like Puppet Names + installed

@BigBoy_Liam
there is none

Load order?

@zsmasher, true, are there any planned formables to restore the US that aren't Enclave related or don't have any prexisting formables?

The coal consortium should probably get sophisticated exploitation tech, not sophisticated electronics, from their formable. I think it makes a bit more sense for them to get maximum mining tech.

The formable decision should also be named 're-activate brotherhood factories' - the current one looks autocorrected to 'reactive brotherhood factories'.

@mister_antartica the CoL already has a vanilla formable: Pax Americana

The Cult of Liberty should be able to reform the U.S. IMO

Really enjoy the mod, it has give OWB even more replayability.

Some suggestions: Bone Dancers (Under Cranium) - United Kingdom of Blood & Bone, Old Believers - Diocese of Manitoba and Dramatae - The Realm of The Director or the Grand Theatre.
[My apologies if my suggestions aren't any good]

I've got a suggestion for a formable that is already in the game. An option for Rosado/Lady of the Bells "Rio Technate" to form the "Mexican Technate" after retaking all of Mexico. The Mexican Technate already exists as a cosmetic tag in game with its own flag even but is only available as a path for NCR Hayes's Mexico puppet in his focus tree.

@roquero13 they already have a formable in normal owb
i don't really play them either so i don't know much about it

Any way to form Sonora State as Gente Del Sol? Amazing mod btw!

Rio Grande chapter/ Mexico chapter - Alamo chapter after conquering Santa Anna and Rio Grande

the cult liberty where u can from the republic of montana once u take over montana

New Formable Idea to Replace the Current one for the Slags(Free States Path)

Free State of Nevada
Formable once you conquer The Den and Annex Modoc
gains claims on All of Nevada(once you conquer Nevada gains a decision to Expand into Oregon and California)
Uses the base mod Free State Flag


Free States of the West Coast
Formable once you conquer the NCR, Nevada, and Oregon
Uses the Gas Mask Free State Flag
gains claims on Utah, Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado



Free States of America
Formable once you Conquer Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado
Uses the Free State Elite Trailblazer Flag
Gains Claims on the Entire Continental United States

Please give the baggers a formable if they take California. Maybe 'New Columbian Republic' (Columbia was another name for america for a while, and it keeps with the multiple ncr theme)
Also one for the old dogs if the conquer Cesar: American Union of Proletarian Republics

@Piss Man2:Pissing no it existed, i removed it cause the new blue rose tree has a new mexico formable and i thought it be reductaion

Have I been suffering from the mandela effect and it was just never in the mod?

Blue Rose New Mexico formable is broken due to the new update. pls fix

@Wartank55 thank you for reporting the bug, i will fix it when possible
that formable is from an old submod that got intergrated, i never really checked the state ids on them in awhile

Bug for the Protectron Security Hub Formable
You gain a Claim on Southern Wyoming

I think a moore californian state after annexing the legion could have a formable, something like the californian legion

If you need help with NCR names I would be down to help

Texas Arms Association shortly TAA - Ancapistan of America

@xpoaze nope, you can only get it if you go for the general new fit path (aka the non cerbues one)

is the shale formable removed? i dont see it anywhere

@Coozer I did think about giving ncr paths formables like i did legion but i just never found good name ideas for them, i thought pacific states didn't fully make sense with them tbh, maybe a day in the future but probably unlikely sadly

I know they push into north america but could the NCR form the pacific states like the rebel group in Khiserreich?

I had the idea of what spain called the province...but it was just all Las Californias and Santa Fe de Nuevo México -not very NCR.

i cant figure out how to form these even when im pretty sure i have all the land, can someone help me out?

I've come forth with my own little request. Perhaps Doki Doki could form something like a "The Cute Shogunate" or "Cute American Shogunate"? Y'know, because Doki is a japanese dating sim or whatever. Similar to their Cute Colorado Republic name, but for when you're going a *tad* further than just Colorado.

If not, no biggie, just thought I'd throw my hat in the ring.

Could you please add Las granjas can form Mexico?

@I can't even next update maybe?
next update may take a bit to come out cause 5.1 added trees to alot of nations which means i have to remove a good amount of formables, and i wanted to add some new ones to slightly offset that

When are you giving the Archdiocese of Santa Fe a formable as a reward for defeating Lanius?

Pwitty pwease add a formable for New Canaan for players who went down the elites path (corrupt Rigdon). Something like "Second Republic of Utah", or "(New) Four-states Commonwealth" sounds like it would be pretty cool, would be really nice to have a visually authentic rival to the NCR with New Canaan. If you are to do this, I could make the flags for it to reduce work load.

@Coozer I did mess around with the idea of ncr formabels like legion gets, but i couldn't get any good names for them really so i stopped with that idea, but i get why you would want that, it just hard to come up with good ideas imo

I feel NCR should change name as it grows- like western or some new USA.

the gator maws when they take all of lousiana should be named as the gators Den

Just tested it and it works in my saved game, for anyone else who was wondering

Is it save game compatible? I would like to form the Imperium in my Caesar campaign without having to restart it, as I already conquered so much

formable commonwealth pre war and Godwater Conclave for Heaven gates

I have an idea for a Guerreros de Honduras formable: "The Northen Centroamerican Federal Republic" o "La República federal Centroamericana del Norte". You would need the controll of:
-Belize Kaals (Chichen Itza)
-Poptún Kaals (Chichen Itza)
-La plantación (Costa Cafeinada)
-Las montañas del Refugio (Tierra de los Tzazil)
I know that the borders wouldn't be exactly like the Real Centroamerican Federal Republic, but it could still be fun.

how do i form Baja Cartel? I just see the "Form Baja Bandits" Option

Really like how Lanius as a representation of the Legion as a whole gets to call it exactly that plain and effective

reformable United States for Enclave Factions in the submopd would be cool imo

A formable for arroyo would be amazing. something like 'The Chosen Few' or 'Children of the vault dweller.', just feels strange to still be called just arroyo after you go bad karma and take out the ncr.

I love the mod bro thank you

This was/prolly still is a great mod. Please keep it updated if possible. But as a suggestion, assassin city formable for if they somehow retake back I think it's Dallas. There's some lore there to work with.

Or possibly Petro Chico

yo you should add a formable for the Mescalero Nation

How do you get the Icepickers in The Old Country??

As a heads up to anyone who had the same 'issue' as me, some formable decisions are set to only be visible once you've done certain things - Loving the mod!