There's some missing textures in the underworld. It appears that "overlays/debrisdirt004" is absent in the files.

one-sided: the map

I like the map but your underworld is trash. Every time I try to escape it as a 125hp class I die no matter what. even after 5 medkits grabbed.

Please fix your trash underworld. make the kits more common and also medium kits instead of small.

You and your colleagues should be sent to GULAG for such a bad map

Honestly, I liked the previous underworld. It was more of an early SF map (not a bad thing). The crits allowed me to kill anyone who was over-extending to my side of the base, or if I was fast to catch people on the point attacking/defending. And I have seen people go to the underworld for this purpose. As for the skelly king and the spells, as I said before, they distract gameplay.

Mostly I based my feedback on my previous experience with the map and compared it to the new version and people in the chat saying they preferred the older version. I comment on it because I care for the map, if something like erebus were to get more skeletons, I wouldn’t care since I don’t like those maps, but when I saw this change and experienced it, I got saddened by how an objectively good SF map got its quality turned down. It’s your choice and your map, and I’m not gonna change it, I’m just going to share my feedback and honest opinion. Thank you for your time and for listening

nobody went into the underworld, and now with spells theres finally an incentive. the skeleton king was added with a 1/5 chance of spawning and it drops an extra master spell since... its cool

cat, i felt the same way without the spells. I added the spells since I liked them. I'm not removing them. Thanks for your feedback!

@erk Yeah, I like ICS maps too and people who hate his maps suck balls at the game. I also love ICS because he's an OG player that has been playing the game since September 2007 during the game's beta release.

It would be really sad to see a map that was this well made just turn into another “ugh I have to go on this map and do a contract” instead of “this map is a fun reskin of sawmill, I’m gonna queue for it regardless of needing to do a contract or not”

Just cuz I didn’t leave a comment in 2022 doesn’t mean I hated the map back then. I thought this map was great and again I enjoyed doing the contract last year and this year before the changes. It was a fun time to have a break from all of the maps that do nothing but spam bosses, skeletons, and other unfun stuff, and instead focused more on gameplay while still having a good gimmick + skeletons that weren’t a pain to deal with. Plus many people enjoyed this map if you look at the previous comments. I see one or two people who didn’t like it, but the rest actually said it was a good map, and no one ever asked for “add more skeleton spam and spells pls!!!” Those elements just distract the good gameplay of this map and just pull it down to be awful. If this map was truly bad, then you would see a comments section similar to any of the usual “bad maps” like Hellstone where everyone is complaining.

lol

Worksloppers miss again

I really wonder why nobody complained about shitty spells and skeletons when the map came out, maybe because they weren't even in the map?

And I like ics’ maps too so that insult doesn’t get far lol

Where were any of you when the map came out lmao

You just dropped this map down to ICS levels of bad by adding all the skeletons and spell spam
You really gonna start raking in the map stamps and strange filters now

Fix the missing textures please

I liked this map a lot, and a lot of people did too, but the skeleton changes and spell changes were just unnecessary, they just detract from the gameplay and just adds more unnecessary stuff from an otherwise great halloween map.

What? Honestly I really liked this map, it was pretty fun and a cool concept. Arguably one of the best looking reskins and playing reskins. I have not seen anyone complain about the map at all aside from being a reskin and aside from the camping of hell. The aesthetic of it was great and overall I enjoyed the gameplay.

Adding more skeleton spam and more spells to the map would honestly make it less fun. I enjoyed the map a lot while doing the contracts but with these changes it will just make the map a lot less fun. More skeletons and spells don’t make a map fun, it makes it annoying and unfun, which is not what this map is. Arguing that no one thought it was fun to begin with doesn’t make sense because why would you add changes that arguably makes the map even less fun?

Huh? I've never seen anyone complain about this map. It's just a good reskin with Halloween themed coat. It doesn't need to be Valve pre 2015 quality to be enjoyable.

nobody thought it was fun to begin with

more skeletons and spells made the map unfun tbh

Spells? Skeletons? Just why... It was already a good map with Underworld portals from time to time and spooky saw blades. More spam to deal with ≠ better Halloween map
Please don't make the same mistake as Tomi with his obominations.

The missing textures I saw was primarily on the ground in the underworld, and under some coffins in the flank houses.
While the missing moddels, were on mid, after a capture. Though why the Missing Model ERROR was missing texture as well, I have got no clue.

Ahh there it is. Sorry, my hard drive wiped a couple months ago so my files are a bit unorganized. Hopefully should be fixed soon.

I know theres props on mid that are missing. Which textures are missing?

So... missing textures and missing model errors with missing textures have showed up on the map in Casual. I think something went wrong in the patch.

This will be fixed in an update soon. Thanks!

just found an exploit? while playing: a heavy can camp the hell spawnpoint by sitting on the floating tires and can just shut off hell for the entire enemy team.
i think i even got physically stuck in the enemy heavy and couldnt even turn around to do any dmg back. or heavies dps is just that insanely high point blank that you die before being able to turn and face him. doesnt run out of ammo because you die inside of him and doesnt even need to move to pick up ammo. and im assuming he constantly uses sandvich while the portals are closed to be able to sit there indefinitely. without pushing in there with an uber somehow i dont think you can get rid of the heavy at all. so idk make a second spawn point or smth?

I don't really have any issues with this map other than that the underworld takes wayyyyyy too long to get to the end. If you're not a class with a big amount of health like Soldier if your class can't run the fastest, you're screwed. Not only that but the wooden planks that lead you to the big cauldron aren't level, and you can end up getting stuck on'em which gives you even less time to make it out.

You did a amazing job with this map! Continue doing what you love and have a good day :)

thank you! I love sawmill too

Definitely my fav scream fortress of 2022 besides Helltrain. I really like Sawmill and im glad this got added.

How can i play it on tf2 all i know is that it has something to do with the console

cool

thnk u....... very coopl;....

awesome

oh haha that's awesome!

and thank you, I worked really hard on this!

nah, its not a reference to anything. just a skeleton catching up on their favorite show, Bones!

Love this map and its easter eggs as well! Question as I'm editing the tf2 wiki for this map: is the skeleton in the water with a tv on its chest a reference/easter egg to something? First thing I thought of was the jerma crushed by tv incident. Please let me know if im looking too much into this or if this is a reference to something else. Would love to get confirmation!

Again, great map and I've enjoyed playing it a LOT!!!

you can just type in your console "map koth_sawmill_event" or queue up for it in casual!

sorry i dont use tf2 mods

how do i use this

Thank you! It is a much better map now.

Fixed red portals, and added some new detail to spawns!

I wish the overworld had more halloween stuff, especially in the spawn rooms. I thought I just joined regular sawmill when I first got in a server. More pumpkins (not bombs), candles, skulls, ghosts etc

U still cant get through portals as red team

Sorry for the harsh comment, was up late and mad about a video game. Moving past the portal thing, the map is just fine.

yeaaah I forgot to check "Clients" when making the new teleport entities! whoops! Should be fixed when the game updates again.