@Cord78 This is exciting news! I will update the description! 👍

so good news is that if you sawp from TA, PA and EML to algernon's new control mods... this map works quite well!

I even uninstalled this map, and it started working again.My game only seems to be freaking out when this map is enabled, and I can't figure out what exactly causes it.

Like I said, the compatability report wasn't telling me anything. I've learned to use that thing and keep it in a mandatory collection of mods I'll always install any time I have to purge my list.

Hi @Collins I suggest you get the compatibility report and follow it's instructions, it sounds like you have conflicting mods

Seems there's more to it. I can't place roads, I can't unpause, and the game is completely silent, not even buttons make sounds.

Oddly enough, the compatability report mod logs don't suggest that there's anything wrong.

So, the warning about the map not working with the anarchy mods: Would that just cause the trees to be invisible unless you're zoomed in really close, like the LOD is broken? I'm able to load into the map, but the trees won't render at a distance, only real problem I'm finding. Not sure if it has to do with those or something else.

@Collins (Big Momma) This makes for an interesting read, Avanya's description from five years ago in [What exactly does vanilla mean?] (https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/5kjyec/what_exactly_does_vanilla_mean/dbog52r?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) is what most of us in the community understand as vanilla.

"Vanilla" does't really belong in a map's title, that requires a DLC to use it, I'd say.

Is it compatible with Network Anarchy 3.0 ?
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2862881785

@carina understood on this Carina, totally understand on the reasoning. Will checkout your other maps too!

@Shockwave Unfortunately there won't be a version available that will be compatible with the new prop and tree anarchy's, I haven't got a save file that is complete enough, i'd have to spend another 50 hours detailing. i honestly don't have to time to complete a map I've already put to bed. Sorry

@disco turtle which said mods version you're using tho?

So in love with this map with the skyline 6 series! but waiting for the updated with the prop/tree anarchy compatible as well

wish it stated the european map theme

@hash 1 required DLC, the required items in the list are aesthetics only. https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/5kjyec/what_exactly_does_vanilla_mean/ please read this article by Avanya. Cheers

this is a really cool map, but it isnt vanilla?

@Sargon Destroyer of Worlds - this version of the map does not work with the new prop anarchy or the new tree anarchy. You can use the old versions of prop and tree anarchy only.

I'm having an issue with the map. I assume it is related to Anarchy but I'm no longer sure what versions you are recommending after all the updates to the mods as a result of P&P DLC (which I have not yet purchased)

When I load into your map I get the following error:
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Array index is out of range. [System.IndexOutOfRangeException]

Details:
No details
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I can't place any roads nor will the game speed start.

I can start other maps, so I'm assuming it is related to your Anarchy message

Here are the current (anarchy type) mods that I am running :
Game Anarchy 0.7.7
Harmony 2.2-0 (Mod Dependency) [Plazas & Promenades compatible]
Move It
Network Anarchy Beta
Precision Engineering
Prop Anarchy temporary fix
Tree Anarchy 1.3.5

That is very interesting Disco Turtle, It's the new tree anarchy and prop anarchy mods which are incompatible, the old ones will work fine

How is the map incompatible with prop/tree anarchy mods? I launched it with said mods and did not see any issues. Just curious as im about to start a new game for the dlc

Hey Josh, I have a fix for you! Get the More Network Stuff mod and delete the plane connections then re draw them in, this should work for you.

Hey Snkiz, That's really nice, I'm glad you've been able to improve the map to suit your play style, i'd be happy to have a look at some pictures :)

This might be a a newb question, but if the map is updated. Does that mean that I have to re-download it, and my prior work in the map will all be lost?

Hey Carina, I see that you are planing to update the map. I know it's a small thing, but the river bottom and sea floor are the same height, as is the water level. So the whole map has shell fish. I I sloped the rivers, made channels and increased the flow so that the rivers flow to the sea. I now have all fish verities. I also extended the shipping route into the bay. To me it makes the bay come to life, even in first person view you can see the water get darker where it's deeper. I'd be happy to share what I have so far if you are interested for when you update the map.

Jastin, thank you for your comment

Thanks for your Comment josh, i will take a look at the outside connections today and update the map

I played this map for hours and then got to where it was time to add an airport and planes would never come. I made a custom airport at first with Airports DLC. A couple planes took off but none ever came. Then I plopped down a vanilla airport and no planes either on that one.

Amazing map! I have been looking for something just like this for so long, the detail and layout are just perfect! Thank you so much Carina!

thanks!

Hi Ovvldc, you can still use it with the old anarchy mods. I have a quite a few fixes to make on the map as it stands at the moment then I will sort another version of the map out. Thank you for your comment :)

Still quite keen on using this with the Anarchy mods, especially now that the Skyline6 series is live on Youtube every week and reminding me of the map :).

hands down love this map Carina, been using it for a while now and so good.

Hi Ventru, I’m planning on it, I need to schedule in some time to sort it out it’s probably a good few days work in it to get it workshop ready. I hope to get some time free soon. Thank you for popping by and commenting 🙂

Great map. Is there a chance to get it working with Anarchy mods? I'm looking for a map to start my new city and this is the one I would like to use but I need the mods also.

Hey Berisacharov Thank you for your kind comments, I will definitely change the shipping route, thank you for the feedback 🙂

Strong map.

Great map Carina! Big spaces for zoning and very nicely detailed. You went above and beyond with that interchange. Most definetely in my top 3 of Vanilla maps.

But I wouldnt be Dutch if I wouldnt have anything to "complain";
The ship route is not in the best place to utilize the premade harbor. One has to reroute the ship route (a bit) to be able to connect the cruise or cargo harbor in a proper manner and utilize more of the available space in that premade harbor.

Hey bentelindtner, there is definitely an interchange to get off the highway in the start square! I know it doesn’t load where the start square is and that’s my bad and I can fix that but it’s not a game breaker, just move to the start square when it loads, it will only be when you first load the map and not anymore times after. Perhaps give it another try, I hope it works for you. Thank you 👍🙂

It looked really nice, but had two issues: 1. Start tile is not where the map loads and would prefer that to have been the start tile since the start tile dod not have any interchange to get off the high way... I thought I'd get by that using 81 tiles to unlock all, but game seem to get frozen and unable to play.. It looked pretty thouhg, I'd have loved to try it out, but alas

game crash i dont know why ;/

Looks absolutely lovely! I will have to wait until the version comes out that works with the new Prop Anarchy and Tree Anarchy, but very keen on trying it out.

Sarbear_oz welcome back! Thank you for choosing my map 🙂

Thank you MarkyMark122! I have been lucky to have been involved in map making process for a few maps now so I’m not a total noob. I hope you enjoy building on it 🙂

Hi Snkiz, when I began to make the map I had the new tree and prop anarchy enabled. With the old mods they do not become dependent after you’ve completed the map, the new ones do! I promised to make this map vanilla for the you tube creators who asked me to make it. I had it modified so it’s vanilla only, draw back is new anarchy mods will no longer work. I’m planning to release the version I have which has those mods as a dependency.

Haven't played the game in a while and thanx to the Steam Sales, I'm back. Can't wait to use this map. Looks amazing. Great job.

Really nice map. Hard to believe that you have never done a solo map before. Thanks for the details for the Forest Brush. Makes it easier to set up a custom brush rather than using BOB to figure out what trees are in the forests.

Just curious what is the issue with the new tree and prop anarchy? Seeing as it's a tree problem and they are separate mods is it the EML they rely on? Tree anarchy is supposed to work with maps made with the old tree anarchy

Hi ruandemmarose, say hi next time in the streams!! Thanks for coming over to take a look. 🙂

paulnray thank you, I hope you have fun building 🙂