got it going my end update some stuff seems to work ok at mo

crashes

The changes you made are all changes I've wanted to make. Great stuff. I'll test if it works on current build with my mods later on! Thanks for sharing! :)

fixed crash updated

crashes now

Will it work for the original game?

i do not state its to be played with anything and i only touched the spacing of units battle entities and the kv files you can try it with or with out it not sure how it will perform as his mod does change unit spacings

is this mod meant to be played with jons battle for 1212 or is his mod mechanics built into this

thanks for answer, player only recruit is nice idea
also can you make the battle 2 time or 3 time more longer?
battle is too short even with bran's mod for me

no just for custom battles at start but in campaign when put in only if you play as england they will not be op anyway same stats as units of there kind

does ai can recruit him too? i don 't want ai to recruit him.

not long will be posting baron saer de quincy of winchester for custom battles then implementing them to building chain need to be tested for balance thats where feed back would help took on board comments will post update soon just busy with other mod

thanks for answer
nevermind about unit size, it's another mod.
new unit are good too, i really like the historical themed stuffs.
i'm playing with brans mod too, i haven't experienced any issues with compatibility so i think it's works fine with this mod.

Brat i don't think he actually increased unit size the men are just more spaced out. if he did i haven't noticed it. i feel like infantry are a bit too slightly spread out and they should all have the same spacing as spear men, doing that might fix the deployment zone space. however i am not a modder simply a fan of the mod giving a humble opinion. i have been playing this mod with brans battle mod and it fixes speed of battles tremendously units fight much longer.

also the pics of the new English units look very cool.

also deployment zone are too small for new unit size.
feel like units movement are too fast especially infantry, as other mentioned battle are end too soon.

just now thought the bran mod alters unit entities and space as well could be conflicting ill look at it

i know what you mean some really op units prob get around to that but im knee deep in a unit mod for england will post some screen shots on here as they will become part of this mod

i don't think your mod was necessarily the problem i think "vanilla" 1212 just has some really op units

Vaderming awesome best of luck and quick update i actually played this mod with bran mac borns battle mod and it seemed to fix the longevity of the battle and makes men last much longer. another thing i noticed were the ai formations are like a 5 mile long single line and it can be super goofy at times haha but great mod very much enjoying it

beowulf45 i will take a look now im having a melt down with my other mod at the moment so a change up is good get back to you

hey.. fantastic mod. im definitely going to be playing around with this for awhile. the engagements are glorious and cinematic and i feel like an actual battle is going on instead of the first few ranks of troops fighting. only critic i have is that the men do die very quickly and the battles are short lived. i can probably fix this by combining it with another submod that increases the longevity of troops if its compatible. im not sure how successful i will be but its worth a shot. id like to ask in a future update to this mod if you can modify unit stats to make the battles last longer. another thing i notice was that the pike formations look kinda weird do to the spacing of units. poles and shield walls look alright. thanks for the mod and have a great day!

before you say it history buffs i know hes fictional shakespeare and all that its fun

just a quick update im now trying to get hero say units or single ones in to 1212, first one i am doing is sir john falstaff then various other people from late to high medieval time thought it would be fun so fire up the mod tools here we go

bulla ice cream ill look at it get back to you dont except money not why i do it anyway the dollar sterling exchange rate is rubbish lol

this is great, and i love the refrence!

Obviously I could donate a few bucks, or even if you have a mate that might do it? Thanks nevertheless

Thanks for the reply, and no I did a bad job explaining haha.

This is the mod name: Factionwide Military Upgrades [oudated]

This is the description: This mods makes the bonuses for military upgrade buildings like blacksmith, armoury, carpenter etc. factionwide. Because surely if you can ship trading goods through the whole map it should be possible to distribute weaponry in your own provinces? Works for all settled factions Save game compatible Works for all campaigns You can find an alternative version that includes hordes & camps here:

I was so devo'd when I saw the exact same mod but for the 1212 overhaul only haha

i know it sounds dumb but what mod or mods do you mean dont work no more point me in right direction ill see what i can do