Oh, I was just thinking of using the antennas for "range" or "distance". Not for actual power transfer.

1st ATM im maintaining mods. I do not plan on adding any more features due to time constraints on my person

2nd Your antenna range idea is doable but would require adding additional controls to the modified batteries used in the mod. I would not tie them to an actual antenna because IMO the current existing antennas are designed for data transmission where the modded power transmitter is designed solely for power. Its not a terrible idea (Tesla's tower for example was supposed to transmit both data and power at the same time) Its just not something id work on implementing . . . until SE2 adds scripting to the modding capabilities

Idea: what about making the range dependent on antenna range (like a toggle to "use antennas" so it just uses the antennas instead of it's own range?

Forgot. link to companion mod above in the discription or here because why not https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?edit=true&id=3577389482

I just updated this mod to allow for large grid recievers!!!! But me wanting to be unhelpful did not add it to this mod. But wanting people to not ask about it I made a Companion mod that adds large grid recievers. But being lazy I did not change the model, just moved the small grid model onto a large grid block. But not wanting to be to lazy I did multiply the stats of the large grid block by 5 and finally as icing on the cake put a shameless plug for my favorite mod that no one knows about Easy Armory. Also i adjusted the smal grid model to sit properly and mount properly on large grid blocks. Anyway this is way to much typing for today so if you have any questions or comments feel free to post them here.

You can attach a receiver to large grid by using a large-to-small rotor or hinge connection. Certainly not quite as convenient or useful as a large grid receiver, but functional in the mean time. Alternatively, a mod like Attachments (https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=516770964) for a lower-profile version that's easier to work into a build than a standard rotor or hinge (one of them can in fact be constructed within the same block space as a normal large grid block cube, just one side of it is small grid instead).

So the receiver is only for small grid? There is none for large grid? I need to transmit to large grid too.

Hmm. For some reason the graphics arent showing up. The blocks are still there but the skins on them are not

Hrm. I'll see if I have some time tomorrow to play with the mod files locally.

ill work on it to get it functioning but I cant guarantee when ill have time to fix it

I made the changes you brought up but It did not have the desired effect. It now is outside of progression but should not affect antenna's anymore

Oh, also a rather old article that still seems to be accurate to how the tags are currently used, that goes over some of the more complex functionality of progression modding: https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1649148662

TL;DR Delete your ResearchGroup section, keep your ResearchBlocks section, and keep the GroupSubtype definitions in it as 13, should solve the issue and make it work how I think you want it to.

For progression, you only need to define a Group if your intent is for your blocks to unlock something else . Basically, the ResearchBlock (and specifically the GroupSubtype tag in it) defines which set of blocks need to be built to unlock that block. So by specifying group 13 in your blocks, you're saying the player must build something in block group 13 in order to unlock building your blocks. The ResearchGroup is for defining sets of blocks that can be used as pre-requisites.

Since it doesn't seem that you're intending to use your blocks as a pre-req for anything, just have them unlocked by building an antenna, simply deleting your ResearchGroup definition and keeping the GrouSubtype set at 13 should both fix the bug and create the proper progression unlock you're after. (2/2

Ok, so, the reason the mod is blocking antennas is because you've defined a ResearchGroup with subtype ID 13, which in the vanilla game is the group containing antennas. Building any antenna is supposed to unlock laser antennas and transponders, but since you're replacing the group, your blocks instead unlock those. However, your blocks are also set to be unlocked by group 13, so you have to build one of your blocks to...unlock one of your blocks (and also laser antenna and transponders and such). (1/2)

Ive never figured out how to fix progression and dont have time to make the updates required if anyone knows how to make the fix let me know

Nevermind... It break the progression of the laser antenna, action relay and broadcast controller... Please fix this!

Finally a working power mod! Thank you very much!!

Is the mod broken? I have tried everything I can think of and still no power transfer.

Not that subgridding is particularly hard. Throw down a large grid rotor or hinge on the base you want receiving power, grind out the head of the hinge/rotor, add a small head, and then mount the power receiver on that. Done and done.

not without subgridding

@Sherbert So there's no way to transfer from one base to another base?

are you subgridding then it only transfers large grid to small grid

This mod appears to break progression now for Laser Antennae and Action Relay :(

Cy, I know people are stupid like that, thats why I would simply ignore'em. :P You can program in safeties though, like checking if a receiver is on the same grid as a transmitter and then turn off the receiver or transmitter until they are no longer on the same grid, showing some kinda message in the block's interface or have it renamed during such time.

Sherbert, its not a big deal anyway. I was actually trying to power remote bases over a distance using pipelines as a way to transport resources in a moon mining operation. I imagine the wireless transmitters here are probably too short range for that anyway and it would probably be illogical based on their power method anyway.

I'd need some kind of laser antenna method of sending power remotely to outposts instead, but ah well.

lol yeah it wouldnt break the game or cause errors with the current code as is. Its more an excuse. Ive gotten lazy and havent done much coding for space engineers. Also I have not asked nor intend to my modeler to make a model for it. So here is what I will do as large grid version has been asked for a while.

I will make the necessary changes to make large grid reciever blocks and will update the description with instructions to create the block itself.

I will not be making a model or block, that will be up to someone else to take the reigns. All they will need to do is make it a battery block with a specific subtypename i will post upon completing the updated code. The code will pick up the block when the 2 mods are loaded together

@Vas
Welcome to dealing with other people. If you tell them not to do something because its known to cause issues they will do the following three things:
1) Completely ignore you
2) Do what you explicitly told them not to
3) Complain and act like its your fault because you didn't physically restrain them to stop them doing the thing you warned them against

In fact, you definitely _can_ dock a small grid with a receiver to a large grid with a transmitter, and it doesn't seem to cause any issues.

Ah. Couldn't you just add a warning to make sure no one tried that? Like "If you do this, it'll burn your energy and cause lag" or some such? Perhaps if there is a transmitter and a receiver on the same grid, disable the transmitter.

Wouldn't the same thing happened if I docked with a receiver on a grid that has a transmitter?

It was designed that way as a safety. the code is capable of handling large/small ships but I initially wanted to prevent people from putting both on the same grid. this would cause a wierd feedback loop

Uh, why is this only for small ships? I was about to build this for a moon base with multiple mining zones around it, but the receiver can't be built, it can only be built on small grids while the transmitter can only be built on large grids, and both cost exactly the same from what it appears.

Okay, thanks. After playing with it a bit more I better understand how it works.

Its underlying mechanic is that its a battery itself, batteries on auto will not pull from other batteries you would need an ingame script to set your other batteries to recharge to pull from it

Is there a way to make this recharge other batteries on small grids too? It appears it only charges the 'receiver' block and doesn't recharge any other batteries within the ship. This mod is honestly almost perfect and exactly what i was looking for, however my ships always dead after being out of range of the transmitter.

As far as i know its still working as intended

Anyone know if this mod still works? I know the other big power transmitter mod isn't active anymore and seems to be broken according to others

NeedsUpdate = MyEntityUpdateEnum.EACH_100TH_FRAME;

How often are the update ticks for these blocks?

Is the large grid version coming anytime soon?

i would absolutly love a bigg ship/station reciver, in a way that you cane have diferent station buldings in a era with a powersorce bulding that could transfere to the all buldings within 500m or somthing

good to know. Ill look into the progression system issue, and Ill think on large grid versions. from a purely technical standpoint their would be no real difference

This breaks the progression of laser antennas in survival. That being said, not a mod conflict. It's the only mod I have installed. If I have missed something, I'm all ears. I love the mod, but for my current need of laser antenna's, I can't run PowerShare and use them.

I have to agree with @Kaedys!
Although it makes more challenging to get the receiver in a larger grid, it would be beneficial to have a large grid receiver version.

I would like to ask for a large grid receiver, though. While it opens the door to having the receiver and transmitter on the same grid, that's already possible via the small-to-large rotor trick. And it would give a convenient way to power remote outputs, and especially things like remote defensive pods in the area around your main base.

Ill run some tests see if i can replicate it

no battery's no reactors to be fair i am using it on large grid through a rotor small grid on a server.
so i kinda gave it a number of reasons why it could be glitchy

did it have power already in it? the receiver is a battery that stores a certain amount of charge (1 minute of run time at full power)

also i found a glitch even with out the transmitter some how the receiver is still getting power.

yeah small grid only for the reciever

Im confused is there a receiver for large grid or is this only for small grid