I just want to make it clear that if historical accuracy matters to you and you consider this historically inaccurate, don't use it. I created it because I wanted firearms to be more useful when attacking forts, and decided to share it.

@jvawter: In the projectile tab there's a checkbox for "can pierce fort walls." Sorry it took me until the end of November to answer your question.

ok so what i gathered from the argument bellow this is..... its complicated and deserves a long and healthy debate? i mean Raptor assumes that bullet shape is all that matters and while it is a factor, its not the whole story, Das makes some good points like how the invention of firearms helped end the era of heavy armored knights and points out how shrapnel caused a lot of injures witch probably led to many deaths by infection, but Bandana seems to be the expert here, he points out how gun were very different back then and the fact that armor evolved with firearms, although if i might add as far as i can tell the invention of the machine gun cut off the development of armor until the invention of Kevlar, please correct me if im wrong, but anyways in the end it seem that firearms were very different back then and the factors that influences guns today are not the same as the ones back then. again please correct me if im wrong as i genuinely wish to learn more about this eras firearms.

Hey man, I really love this mod but the one thing it doesn't do is change how far the guns can shoot. So I got a mod called Better Gun Range and I was wondering if it replaced the projectile table. So I wanted to go into the projectile table to change and fix it but I was unable to find this table. So my questions are, is this mod compatible and where is this projectile table? Thanks in advance!

Anyone wishing to doubt what I have stated concerning velocities, is free to bring it up with the Graz Armoury, who have done tests concerning blackpowder firearms, which you can freely read if you look up Graz musket test in google.

Muskets in the late 16th and into the 17th Century were the firearms that were capable of defeating 'Plate mail'.

Plate mail being a word that pretty much anyone with a basic background knowledge of historical arms and armour would know is a No-No term to use to describe Plate harness.

Furthermore, 15th Century firearms and armour actually co-existed. Handguns, calivers, escopoteros, arquebusses... whatever variant of hand-held firearm you wish to mention... Did not make armour obsolete. Even munitions armour could be pistol and even caliver proofed.

Here is what Humprey Barwick has to say of Muskets.

But to the musket againe: The musketes are weapons of great force, and at this day, bothe with leaders and followers, much feared: for fewe or no Armours, will or can defend the force thereof, being néerehand, which is as well a terror to the best armed, as to the meanest: it will kill the armed of proofe at ten skore yardes, the common armours at twenty score, and the vnarmed at thirty skore, being well vsed in bullet and tried powder.

15th Century Muskets didn't exist. The term Musket, and the Musket 'proper', were a Development in Spain in the Late 1500's... hence the term 'Spanish Musket'. Muskets were originally very heavy guns firing shot hovering around 1/10 to 1/8 to the pound. Demi-Muskets, which became the predominant firearm into the 18th century and which practically took over the name 'Musket', tended to fire shot around 1/12 to the pound and lighter.

Now as to whether a Japanese arquebus that is likely firing a 2-3 monme or so projectile is capable of penetration through large wooden structures and causing 'Splintering' to the level to cause injuries... Is up to personal opinion... But I highly doubt that would be the case in actuality, at least with 'splintering' and 'casualties', penetration through wood is a different matter.

You are both wrong.

Funnily enough, despite what people commonly think, Muskets, with period charges usually giving muzzle velocities reaching or exceeding 400 m/s, with 500 m/s also possible especially if you are double-charging your shot, as gunners were advised to do if facing against armoured opponents. Arquebusses, calivers etcetera, though firing significantly lighter shot than that used by Muskets or Demi-muskets, still had a fairly high muzzle velocity.

Curiously, the muzzle velocity of 19th century firearms dropped quite significantly, even in military cartridges, which hovered around the 300+ m/s mark. This is probably due to a combination of the fact that armour was virtually gone and that when hypersonic missiles hit subsonic during their flight path will suddenly encounter stability issues... which happens even in rifled and pointed projectiles... is probably what prompted the change.

Now that I have thoroughly obliterated Raptor lets talk about how a 15th century musket round could obviously blow a fucking wooden parapet to smithereens. Because of course it could, especially fired en-mass. And even if the round loses all it's killing power most of the time all the splinters and shrapnel are still going to cause casualties, but since Total War only simulates death and not injury it is more accurate for the round to kill than for them to not. I feel like the weapon that made PLATE MAIL obsolete should very obviously be able to trounce a wooden barricade if your firing literally hundreds of shot at it. Like bruh. It's wood. WOOD. If this actually worked the Czech method of wagon warfare would have become the standard, but it didn't because once guns became the norm hiding in a WOODEN WAGON was silly.

Ignore Raptor. The rifles in FOTS did not fire *bullets* they still fired balls, the tube of the gun was just rifled rather than being smooth bored. The British had literally JUST swapped from the 1853 Enfield (which was a muzzle loaded musket) to the Snider–Enfield 1866 (which was breach loaded with a cartridge) when the Boshin war broke out in 1868. And even then early bullets where basically still balls because we didn't have precise enough machine tools yet. Both sides did put in massive orders for the brand spanking new German Needle Gun and the French Chassepot (both are single round bolt actions) but those never got delivered. The war was mostly fought with old German and Tanegashima made muskets, although a not insignificant number of French Minié BREACH LOADED RIFLES where in use by the elite forces of BOTH SIDES.

Okay, thanks for the feedback, but this mod wasn't created to be realistic, it was to make gameplay more fun. It's up to you whether you care about that or not.

Not realistic at all. Matchlocks fire round balls, that do not have much penetrating power.
Rifles in FOTS fire bullets which beside the shape have a much higher velocity than matchlock guns, therefore have better penetrating power.

Imma give this mod a try simply because I've never seen such commitment to answering the comments. Looks handy too. Nice work man.

Yes it does. I can't change that. It's up to you whether you care about that or not.

does the mod make matchlocks pierce castle walls? (tier 3+ forts)
because it would not make sense for a bullet to pierce rock walls in those situations.

It should unless they add a new projectile. My advice would be to try it out with that mod and see.

Does this work with fourstrider units?

Great, thank you.

Sure does.

Does this work with Weierstrass' units?

Doing CA's job better and cheaper, love it, great mechanic that really should've been in the game at launch and can only be conceived by someone with true passion for tactical variance.

I made a version specifically based on Radious, so check it out: Fort Wall Piercing Bullets - Radious version

After taking a look at it, Radious has a copy of the Vanilla projectiles_tables, as well as a separate projectile table, aum_projectiles, which they use for a few of their weapons. I think my table would override the vanilla table, but not the aum table.

They've changed just about all the effective ranges though. I guess I could throw together a version compatible with Radious real quick, it's not super difficult.

I'm not entirely sure. This mod changes the projectile tables, so if the Radious uses vanilla projectiles or weapon sets, then yes, it should still work.

Does this work with new matchlock units like those added through radious or just the base-game ones?