update please

This is maintained as part of the Super Compatch. Morvin has not been active in this game for ages.

is this mod author deceased

This needs an update. Unable to steal back artifacts now. AI can steal from you, but nothing happens when you start a scheme to steal it back.

There should be a version that removes artifact claim wars entirely

Update please.

Must have. Dont need all my dynasty members hating me just cause I wont give up some little knife I inherited lol.

Does it work for Scythe patch?

Um...it is...look directly below. And dump the stupid graphic.

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Updated this mod to latest patch:
Morven's Mods Compatch

Y'all know if this mod works with existing save games?

@lotherius. You should bring that up on the "Unofficial Patch" mod page. He could probably fix it pretty easily.

Any way to actually make the artifact claim dialog from the AI show what artifact they're wanting every time? Sometimes it's there but other times it doesn't even say what artifact they're asking for.

I am still using it without any problem so far. Played like 3 campaigns over 100 hours. I don't have any other mods modifying game mechanics. Just simple UI upgrades.

Is this mod still working ? If not is there any alternative to it ?

Hi Morven, any idea when all of these mods will be updated ? Ty

Hi Morven, does this mod need an update?

I'll be back to update all the mods next week.

is working?

Without this mod - Random dude notification - "I am a cousin twice removed from my step mother.
Your banner that has been passed down through three generations of direct player heirs is rightfully mine! Give me it back or die!"

As always, well done!

v2.7
Updated for v1.8.*. Various small inclusions of vanilla changes.

glad to hear it is still compatible even if not up to date xD

still compatible with Robe 1.8.2

Update please 1.8

this mod is essential despite how small change it brings

Thank you so much for this! I’m playing a Muslim clan rn and it was KILLING me getting spammed by every family member that was a vassal for the same gd artifact! Factions left and right! It’s working near perfect with the newest version, except the newest patch made giving gifts of gold and artifacts separate gifting events so that you could gift gold and artifacts without resetting the opinion modifier. No big deal but just a small quality of life improvement I would ask for, but other than that it’s made this playthrough so much better.

I too get spammed by strangers to get MY ARTIFACTS
Thanks for the mod

If you were to do a quick update, this mod is still using "is_diplomatically_available", it needs the switch to the updated wording.

Thank you for fixing this stupid bs for us. Can't believe pdx haven't addressed it yet.

It's 99% fine, there's a changed name of an opinion modifier which is about the only difference. I'd like to rewrite part of the mod before I upload an updated version, I'm more experienced with some things after the Dynamic Holy Sites mod that will make it function better.

For anyone wondering, I've been playing with this mod for over 100 in game years in 1.7 and it's working just fine.

compatible with 1.7?

@=Sarsante=
The issue should be fixed now.

If a character possesses both a house and personal claim and loses a duel, the challenge is considered to have been made in the right of the personal claim, only the personal claim will be lost, and the house claim will be retained. When a character challenges with a house claim and does not possess a personal claim, then the challenge is considered to be made in the right of the house claim on behalf of the house, the loser will lose the house claim.

The same rules apply to a losing defender. If he possess a personal claim then only the personal claim will be lost and the house's claim, if it exists, will be retained. If the losing defender does not posses a personal claim, only a house claim, then the loss results in the loss of the house claim.

v2.6
Updated for Fate of Iberia v1.6. New mechanism to strip house claims from failed duel challengers added in, will prevent house claimants cycle challenging. Thanks to =Sarsante= for bringing the issue to my attention.

German loc update thanks to DarkMatter.

Lads the third loc line is just for testing, it's only "seen" by the AI in normal play, and the second loc line isn't used yet, I couldn't get the desired mechanism to work properly. I've changed the second line to DarkMatter's as the compromise.

@darkmatter what do you think of the compromise wich I suggested yesterday?

Could quote your favourite lines from Holderlin, what book your currently reading, or is a favourite that you'd recommend, anything that in good spirits gives testament to your cultivation and would behove trust in your judgments. Something more fun, and perhaps just, than flipping a coin.

But if you agree on a compromise I can go with that.

@Morven How should we even be able to determine something like that?

I don't mind going with Dillo's suggestion, it wasn't my intention to compete like that in the first place.

Let's make the second line his version, but leave the third line as it is :)

Well we're at an impasse then . Not being a German speaker I'm reliant on your judgments on the quality of German prose. To settle it, which of you has the better aesthetic cultivation and discernment?

@menmaatre
It shouldn't matter. I'm not aware of any conflicts, and if there were you'd likely have to choose between mods (or write your own compatibility patch combining the two) rather than try to do load order tricks that would overwrite eachothers mods, but a moot point as I don't know of any need.

where should this be in the load order?

The second line works in both ways, it means the exact same thing.
The third line: here my „gut“ makes more sense than „schön“ because „schön“ means only „beautiful“ in German, and here it’s irrelevant if the artifact is beautiful or not

It's mostly the second line that bothered me. The way I see it the intended message is something along the lines of: "you gave it away, so you can't demand it back for the next 30 years"
Dillo's translation on the other hand reads something like "you gave it away for 30 years, come back later" - simplified. While I can see where he's coming from, I feel like that is not what the message is supposed to say.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please. ^^

What are your top three Reclam books?

What say you Dillo? I'm not sure how I should adjudicate

To be frank, the german localization provided is.. kinda wonky. This one works better, in my opinion.

l_german:
demand_artifact_interaction_house_claim_same_dynasty:0 "Ohne einen persönlichen Anspruch können keine Haus-Artefakt-Ansprüche gegen Mitglieder der gleichen Dynastie durchgesetzt werden!"
relinquished_artifact_interaction_is_valid:0 "Auf weggegebene Artefakte kann 30 Jahre lang kein Anspruch gestellt werden!"
demand_artifact_no_ai:0 "Die KI kann keine schönen Dinge haben"

v2.5
German loc added thanks to Dillo.

@Dillo
Thanks mate.

German loc:

l_german:
demand_artifact_interaction_house_claim_same_dynasty:0 "Ohne einen persönlichen Anspruch können keine Haus-Artefakt-Ansprüche gegen Mitglieder der gleichen Dynastie erhoben werden!"
relinquished_artifact_interaction_is_valid:0 "Ihr könnt nicht ein Artefakt verlangen, das ihr 30 Jahre lang aufgegeben habt!"
demand_artifact_no_ai:0 "Die AI erhält keine guten Dinge"

Thanks fpr the quick answer