mod is dead

10/10 funnyness

This is just an unfun challenge mod. While you can’t get stat downs, all your star ups last so short, you can’t enjoy them, so most of the time you will be running around with near-basic stats.

Good concept, very bad practice. This character makes most items useless, not fun

the downtrodden?!

i don't think the tainted counterpart is... well justifiable as a tainted version (i know a lot of people have said this already). perhaps you could have a larger drain but a reset of the values it takes way each floor? it differ's enough and does provide a challenge but it rewards you in a way by continuing on, which i think is a good message to get out there (with those with depression and stuff), it's prob too much to ask so... just have a good day

If you plan on making any changes to the Desolate with the new modpack in order to make him playable, I have an interesting suggestion. The original rock bottom records what your stats would have been if its effect hadn't been applied, so you could implement "shadow stats" similar to how the real rock bottom works. The stat drain affects your applied stats, and not your true, behind-the-scene stats. That way, whenever a stat up is collected, using damage as an example, your damage would increase back to what it would be if there were no stat drain, plus the new stat upgrade. Then, your stats would continue to drain from there, at a quick rate. I think cracked crown is boring, and that this would be a good alternative.

The Depressed is really fun though, and I'm excited to see his new pocket item. Great job on the mod!

Wait, so your tainted character's "gimmick" is that he's worse in every way? That kind defeats the point of a tainted character. Look at literally every other tainted character and they have at least *something* they can gain out of their gimmick. Even Jacob -- who's whole thing is being chased by an extremely dangerous enemy 24/7 -- can use it to their advantage to kill other enemies.

Why would anyone ever want to play as The Desolated?

To all further comments, I'll be releasing this character in a bigger mod with some changes. I'll post here once it is released. It has a few improvements, however the Desolate will stay terrible most likely

@baymaxjax Nothing, it is simply a worse version of The Depressed

@serbiangoat1 In the bigger mod, The Depressed will start with a pocket active called "Anti Depressant", which will stop the draining of stats for the current room. From my testing, that new version is actually kinda fun, so I hope you and others will enjoy that version better. (it also enables min-maxing a little, as you can spend unlimited amount of time in the room you activated it in)
It will also start with 2 soul hearts instead of one, although I may not keep that as from my own testing, it's become a bit too easy for my own taste. We'll see!

What’s the difference between the depressed and the desolate? Because it seems like tainted depressed is just the normal version with eye sores and low health.

also i feel like this character should start with high stats to balance, but even with that this character would still suck because those stats will be gone in 3 minutes max

a challenge is supposed to be fun :/

@Kenny McCormick The Tainted counterparts gimmick is suffering and pain (it is purely a challenge character, nearly impossible)

What is the Tainted counterpart gimmick?

damn this is pretty similar to real depression lmao

@jamesb456 Glad to hear that! I'll message you whenever I get better at working in teams/or the mod gets bigger than I can handle

ty good sir

@MortorBort Yes I could, since so many collections have this in them already, I'll change this to only be The Depressed character and make a new mod for Metabirth (the two will not be compatible as Metabirth will also contain the depressed)

could you make a standalone depressed mod?

@Zorutan Hey, I'm really interested in this mod and where you will be taking it. I was wondering if you wanted any help, because I would love to work on this mod!

@super m This is "[REP] The Depressed" mod, but I've renamed it as I'll slowly be adding more than just The Depressed character.

Currently however, it only adds The Depressed, it's tainted version, and an early version of Plumboy (a character based on Baby Plum)

wait, what is this mod?

SoxZ that is not a bug with this mod, that is a bug with isaac itself, the game attempts to figure out what character your continuable run was for, only to find that the "PlayerType" does not exist.

With this update, that is most likely fixed, I've re-written pretty much the whole thing

important!
pausing a run in mid one of those chartacters. removing the mod and then going into the save file makes the file not palyable (crashes imidiatly. every time.) had to reenable the mod so i can go into my savefile.

Me in 4k

BRUH SLENDER I AM DEAD

finally a relatable character

Might not move the mod afterall and just update here instead

I'll be moving the mod soon, as I'm changing things and planning to add more than just characters. New mod will probably be out in a few days

@Red_Back That's an interesting idea, will experiment with it (a rework is being planned for The Depressed)

@Isaac Sorry no backports

@TwitchTheNimbat It had to be done...

Why did you have to add me to the game like this? :(

Random question can you make a rebirth version for me i cant afford repentence afterbirth or afterbirth+

maybe every time you get hit you get a stat down along side the draining but make it so stat ups give a bit more

I do agree that the tainted version is a bit boring, and @Pickled Possum your idea did inspire an interesting solution: looping stats. Your stats constantly increase from your base to your max, and upon reaching your max stats, it resets back to the bottom again.
That way you really have to think about what you clear and when: You don't want your golden days running out before the boss fight, and have to wait another 3-5 minutes to have a chance at fighting the boss. Descending to a floor decreases your stats to base (so the loop resets). But actually, this might become a problem if your stats de-sync, like your damage stat resets sooner than your tear rate stat...

So might go with your solution, I'll test stuff around and update as soon as I can

Like Red back said I think the tainted version getting a full rework is needed. Like maybe stats increase to a certain point, but reset every floor? And maybe stat ups are much weaker? I think that would make the tainted versions gameplay much more different to the original, because right now... its the original but harder. Look into my suggestion, and tell me what you think!

Great concept I love it!

i feel like the tainted version should be reworked fully because adding eye sore and having stats drain faster is kinda eh

cool idea

Thanks, I'll fix it in the next update which will probably be today

The character name isn't in the right place on the death screen. Instead of the bottom, it is in the center. This can be easily fixed by opening death screen.anm2 , finding Frame Properties , and doing the following:
1. Change Pivot X and Scale X to 50
2. Change Scale Y to 60
3. Change Pivot Y to 12
Let me know if you need more help.

You don't get stat downs
E.g.: if give yourself Cricket's Head, then give yourself Soymilk, you don't receive the damage down of Soymilk.
If it was simply Rock Bottom on it's own, then it would be quite boring since that simply makes every item good, and you can win the game with just 1 lucky item.

The way this character works may not be the best way to counter that, but I believe the solution of hurrying the player if they want to utilize this power is pretty fun (although, difficult)
Of course this does mean that min-max players and players who like to take their time will definitely not like this character (and especially not the Tainted version)

Then how exactly does the character act like you have rock bottom if your stats don't act like they stay to whatever it's highest point was?

@Veeyu22 Unfortunately, giving the player Rock Bottom will prevent stat drains: except a really finnicky method that requires a lot of weird workarounds.

But what do you mean exactly by effective stats draining? If you mean that stat ups drain all the way back to your base stats, then that is intended (although with next update, I'm decreasing the rate because right now a soy milk can be drained in one floor)

@Zorutan
Doesn't work :(
Effective stats actually drain. In testing the only one I saw function correctly as if I had rock bottom was range. Just make rock bottom his starting item *(actually set it as a starting item so it can't be re-rolled)

sounds cool! gonna sub to this and i will see how the mod will develop!

Thank you! The draining might be a bit too fast currently, but I decided to post the mod for now and see what people think.
The character is supposed to be a bit of a hard one, but not so much that you have to fight final bosses with below-isaac base stats haha, tweaking is necessary for sure

Next update I might make it so you start with Isaac's stats, but you can be drained to the current base stats (aka, below isaac base stats), that way you get a chance to quickly find your first item room at least

i feel like the draining AND the low stats isnt the best idea but cool mod

How fast do they drain?
Interesting concept!