Yessir

Oh good! Redistributed, not "gone and dead".

Yes! Getting split into two: a new factions mod, and a furniture mod (for the factories). The hoppers probably won't be necessary at all

Sure we’ve established the core item processor is getting a makeover, but VFE Mechanoids is “gone?” :(

Item Processor is gone, and so is VFE Mechanoids :)

There will be a 1.6 in about a month. :-)

Well, I *hope* there will be a 1.6... Nobody knows yet for sure

Re: "grinder stops on low number stack"
https://imgur.com/wlvsfTB

@Sarg Makes sense to me. I know how painful SOS2 had it when they were trying to update saves to retain compatibility between versions. That aside, there'll be a 1.6?! I'm out of the loop...

@UmbraStar I'm going to have to retract my "it works!" comment on using shelf-like objects with the grinder. Because the grinder returns the first applicable item stack on the tile, it stops pulling when the stack it has its eye on reaches a low number, even if there are more item stacks to draw from. Modifying the grinder to keep looking, or sum up all applicable items on the tile, would require a Harmony patch.

I can tell you I don't look forward to making the changes haha. It will have to wait to the next RW version, as otherwise it'd break all saves

The eye of Sarg is yet upon me...
That'll be something to look forward to, I'm sure.

And now you know why Item Processor is going away and we are migrating everything to the pipe network :D

@UmbraStar
Nutrient Paste Expanded uses its own item source acquisition method, which cleverly uses a "RegisterToGrinder" comp it patches onto vanilla hoppers to find which adjacent buildings should be treated as sources of items.
I interpreted this to mean you can apply this comp to any building at all to make them into an items source, and to demonstrate, I edited the OwlFridgeBase thingDef from "Simple Utilities: Fridge" (RIP owlchemist). Usually, you'd want to make a patch operation for this, but what's a bit of XML editing among old, dusty mods?
```
<comps>
<li MayRequire="lwm.deepstorage" Class="LWM.DeepStorage.Properties">
<!-- various parameters -->
</li>
<!-- Additional comp that allows the VNPE grinder to access items on this tile -->
<li MayRequire="VanillaExpanded.VNutrientE" Class="VNPE.CompProperties_RegisterToGrinder" />
<!-- other comps -->
</comps>
```
And it worked! The grinder now pulls from refrigerator buildings.

Would this also work with things such as Vanilla Nutrient Paste Expanded?

@D3K43 Definitely. This patch was conceived as a way to make consistent the way one used VFEM factory objects with Rimfactory objects.

One of the biggest gripes I have with VFEM is that it doesn't have proper automation. You're saying with this mod, I can use Rimfactory's conveyor belts in conjunction with VFEM's machines?

I've also finished testing with Phaneron's Basic Storage.
@Psyckosama / @PapaFenn
I'm going to need more specifics to continue testing-- most important of all, which storage object you're having trouble with.

So far, no issues found on my end.
https://imgur.com/xACh72v

Standard shelves confirmed to still be working. Next to try adaptable storage modules

Thank you.

@Psyckosama Older storage mods often stacked items "physically" in the world, merely hiding their graphics under something else. If Adaptive Storage containers hold their items virtually-- maintaining a list without placing them in the world (the smarter way)-- that would be the reason this mod does not work with it. A cursory look at Adaptive Storage modules shows they're really quite aesthetically nice, so I'll look into creating a secondary Adaptive Storage Framework patch.

It's possible that a more recent modification to the Vanilla Expanded Framework changed something. This patch does include an analysis portion, so if something's new, it should comment on it in the console when Rimworld starts up. I'm afraid I don't have the time to investigate immediately, but I'll get around to it by the end of the month.

does not seem to work for me no matter where i place it

Does not seem to work with adaptive storage

Thank you so much!

thank you!

I've confirmed it's working on 1.5! Updating now.

it's great,plz update to 1.5

Will certainly try that. thanks for looking into it, too.

@Contorta There doesn't seem to be an easy fix, but I did find that you can place whatever you want when the factory building is in a frame state-- i.e. people are bringing resources over to build it.

@Contorta I'll check it out.

is there any way to get around a factory 'Interaction Spot' not being able to be blocked by anything other than a hopper? Trying to place IO ports from PRF in their place and getting that error so I'm forced to use conveyors to push them two tiles.

Thank you!

Done!

@Velxtra Working on it now!

Please update to 1.4

Done.

Hey could you add VFE-M as a dependency? That would make it easier to organize different modlists on Rinpy, thanks!

@LeadTears VFEM: Vanilla Factions Expanded - Mechanoid. In addition to new mechanoids, it adds various kinds of machinery you can create from mechanoid components. Technically, this mod only requires the Vanilla Expanded Framework.

and what is the mod in the picture

Quite right!

Actually I believe I managed to make it work with the 1x2 skip from Deep Storage.

I think it is dependent on if there is an item stored in the cell where the factory pulls from, so provided a storage is placed correctly, you can actually use larger storages, although smaller sizes are still preferable.

@Meo I'm afraid this mod only works with 1x1 storage objects: VFEM checks specific locations, not actual storage zones. All this mod does is erase the need for a hopper to be in those specific locations.

Not sure if this is a bug or simply a mod limitation but for some reason the mason saw does not register the large stone dumping bin from the deep storage mod to pull resources from.

The bin itself is around 3x4 or so, does this only work with 1x1 storage or is it just positioning it correctly? (There are no log errors from what I am aware of.)

I actually almost commissioned this mod bless your soul

@Sarg Great! I'm ecstatic to know Alpha Ships has been updated, by the way.

@ハグ / Ian_Suffix: Apology accepted, no bad blood :)

I may change the mod in the future to accept different defs from an XML list, I'll tell you so you can adapt the transpiler if necessary

@ハグ / Ian_Suffix
I appreciate that reply, content creator. Especially considering the public sphere you posted in. Will definitely give this a try.

@Sarg Bjornson
. . .

The makeup of code can reflect anything from time restraints to progress accumulation to obscure means of optimization. My "code review" is my own impression and nothing more, but I apologize for the indirect swipe. Frankly, I'm rather happy you read all the comments.

@ハグ / Ian_Suffix: "and boy what a mess that code is". Well, fuck you very much