@GrimTrigger that largely depends how lwotc defines the gauntlet weapon category etc. Short answer is no idea as never tried it as proficiency as a whole.is not balanced for lwotc so this class isn't.

Should this work without LW2 secondary weapons if I have LWOTC enabled?

@Ishlav iirc it gives extra rocket charges instead due to the gauntlet secondary.

Hello is there a reason why after receiving a Heavy Weapon slot due to Minaturized Munitions, I don't get a choice to select anything? There are options but it just says unavailable without giving me a chance to select them.

@Landar486 if you already get one from somewhere else like exotic suit, you won't get another one.

just noticed something, sometimes the miniaturized munitions perk does not confer a heavy weapon slot to the soldier.

It's just a small text issue, but it seems the detailed info on Chemical Mixtures (in Localization) has a couple misplaced new lines (the br/ token or whatever it's called). So instead of the empty lines before Level 2 and Level 3, they're before the previous ability IIRC.

This is probably my favorite prof class. They seem to have a solution for just about any problem that pops up. Very fun to play. Thank you for making this!

To get rid of the mines, I ended up throwing this into my WSR config:
+WEAPONS_TO_HIDE_KEEP_SCHEMATIC=WOTC_APA_DefensiveMineItem
This makes them not show up in my inventory and the skill still works.

thanks, everything works now :) great mod!
BTW I also got defensive mines showing in inventory in late game but ignoring them seems to be best solution and nothing broke so far.

I can just equip it on rookies and dismiss them I guess. A modding solution is out of my depth.

I've no control over the items as they're granted by the perk and only supposed to show up in tactical, so can't make them sellable as far as i know

It’s only happened 3 times so far on my current campaign which is in endgame. I’m just wondering if there’s some easy way to remove the mines and not really worry why I’m getting them. Maybe make them sellable or something?

@vampirecosmonaut I've never experienced that behaviour personally, but I have heard about it happening before with the Sapper. No idea what the fix was unfortunately.

I keep getting Defensive mines added to my inventory. It seems like has something to do with my combat engineers and different combinations of utility items. When unequipping them after a mission, the game cannot decide which one is a grenade and replaces one of the items with a defensive mine. How can I remove these items from my inventory? Console commands?

@MrCloista Thank you

@Nerrons @R4nDOmI3z - fix uploaded, the code for the proficiency perk had some errors in it which i have now fixed.

I'm also noticing the issue in my current stream run, I'm investigating a possible fix.

Actually spark ability that causes panic is called Nightmare Fuel, not Napalm-X, my bad.

Same here, ATSR config is present, quickburn does not work (and my Colonel could use one for Firestorm ;)). I also have a small suspicion that not only quickburn does not work but also napalm x - I use flamethrower quite a lot and frankly don't recall panic being triggered even once.
I am playing with same mod set as Odd in season 7 so with modded sparks panic triggers on spark chemtrower (canister attacks), but not flamethrower due to Napalm-X ability.
I started to wonder if it would be possible to workaround the Quickburn ability somehow and just remove the gauntlet requirement so it can be used always?

Great work, amazing mod but i have a problem with the quickburn ability not being compatible with the lw gauntlet, i have the ATSR config but it is still incompatible

Welp, I had downloaded the secondaries mod, but not activated it... whoops. Problem fixed now. You can mark that one down as user error. Thanks!

make sure you have lw2 secondaries installed, it is a requirement for proficiency class pack so i didn't feel the need to list it in this mod's requirements as well before, but i will do now.

I just started a playthrough with this, but do not see the Gauntlet as a secondary item to equip. Am I missing another necessary mod? The only other mod I see is required is the base proficiency class mod, which I have installed

Thanks for the information!

@Canada it's purely due to lower numindeck as Dragon32 says, they should promote fine they will just be rarer.

@CANADA
Looks like it'll be a lower chance than the other Proficiency classes. This has
+NumInForcedDeck=1
+NumInDeck=2

They have
+NumInForcedDeck=1
+NumInDeck=4

I can't recall quite how the deck building goes for class selection but these are there, just at lower probability.

Might have been asked already but any idea why none of my rookies are becoming Combat Engineers? (I have the mod that gives me a select choice of 3 each time, even tried disabling all but combat engineer + 2 other classes). Is this class only through the GTS? Thanks!!

LocPromotionPopupText = "<font color='#CA7200'>LEVEL I</font> (gained at <Ability:RANKNAME1/> rank [1])<br/><Bullet/> Gain the Heavy Armaments ability - Allows use of the Gauntlet, a combination flamethrower and mini-rocket launcher.<br/><Bullet/> Gain Blast Padding.<br/><Bullet/> Gain +2 Ablative (Shield) HP.<br/><br/><font color='#CA7200'>LEVEL II</font> (gained at <Ability:RANKNAME3/> rank [3])<br/><Bullet/> Napalm-X - Your Flamethrower can now disorient or panic enemies.<br/><Bullet/> Gain +2 Ablative (Shield) HP (4 total).<br/><br/><font color='#CA7200'>LEVEL III</font> (gained at <Ability:RANKNAME6/> rank [6])<br/><Bullet/> Gain Fire & Steel - Attacks with your gauntlet, and fires set by gauntlet weapons, do +1 damage.<br/><Bullet/> Gain Quickburn - Activate so your next use of the flamethrower will not cost an action.<br/><Bullet/> Gain +2 Ablative (Shield) HP (6 total).<br/>"

There are some misplaced line breaks in the help popup for Chemical Mixtures. This version will fix it (I didn't change anything but the line breaks).

(Fix in a second comment because of character limit.)

1.8b - Added ATSR config file in attempt to ward off any 'weapon incompatible' issues as has been reported. - Try forcing the mod to update n hopefully the new ATSR config i've added will fix the issue.

No just primary shotgun/ secondary gauntlet. I've never had an issue before until this newest campaign. I'll look into the config files and see if something screwed up

Tacoaloto are you trying to use Quickburn with the primary flamer/chemthrower having given the weapon to the CE? There is a reason CEs dont have chemthrowers by default. Quickburn ONLY affects the Gauntlet flamer.

Anybody ever have an issue with quick fire showing up as "weapon incompatible?" I can't find anything that would cause issues other than I do have the new proficiency alchemist enabled

Thanks that helps a lot.

That's probably the shadowops one. There is a new mod shadowops begone that prevents it showing up

Hey I'm having an issue where a non proficiency based combat engineer class is showing up how do I fix that? If it's from another mod can you tell me?

And vice versa.

Nothing except people get confused that upgrades/perks for the Immolator ARE NOT compatible with the Gauntlet.

What exactly makes it incompatible with Immolator Overhaul?

Class mods are config edits mostly, aside from the custom perks which this has 2 of. None of which will be causing crashes

game keeps crashing on launch due to this mod. any idea how i could fix it? really want to play with your class mods and this one is mandatory

The way chemthrowers are written that isn't possible.

Any chance you could add compatibility for the Immolators mod?
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2237137501
It works, it just doesn't benefit from CE's flamethrower buffs. Personally I've also given Immolators a mobility penalty for balance.

aahhh ok I see. So only the rocket launcher can be re-armed then.

that's because rockets are for iridar's rocket launcher, not the gauntlet.

I can't re-arm the gauntlet when carrying multiple rockets?

Mobility bonuses are for position for optimal flamethrower use.
Def boost is for survivability, it's not a 'taunt tank' ala Phalanx. Minituarized Munitions is there to allow other heavy weapon usage and also gives an extra use to base flamer/rocket as they use the heavy weapon template, whereas the abilities do not. The -30% dmg is a balance to ALL these extra charges.

Leaving my personal feedback on balance after the campaign. I really like the idea behind the class and it also nicely fills the void that is sleft with base prof classes for gauntlet. Overall class balance doesnt stand out and fits in base prof class mod, except few cases in my opinion:
- Combat engineer get too much mobility and defense on promotions, only sources of boosting it otherwise are covert ops or PCSs, maybe mobility was done to offset the initial penalty of cannon, but then its better to be flat 2 mobility on squaddie, defense on the other hand makes engineer less likely to be targetted by aliens, so his bonus shield and defense sort of counteract each other. Personally I just tweaked the ini to remove both bonuses.
- Minituarized munitions interacts oddly with gauntlet, especially if you equip HW flamethrower, because it doesnt interact with flame perks. I personally removed the perk and subbed it for High pressure from random deck, which has similar purpose.

@MrCloista Thank you sir! ;-)