This mod is breaking multiplayer again, everytime someone dies the game die with them

Found Brim and Epiphora and it seems to me that the mod was useless? Maybe they've added the interaction in vanilla?

Tried to put 0 frames with modconfig and I could still release the laser without losing the effect of epiphora.

Alright, FINALLY figured out how to use the stat increase in base Epiphora without creating another item.
Seeds and pre-patch Tainted Cain should now work same as vanilla.
I didn't test it, but this should probably also fix the crashes with Modeling Clay and Lemegeton

I always thought that the tears bonus should deteriorate, not go away. I'd love that sir

You should probably say somewhere in the description that this changes seeds

Ayo, just wanted to say I've been working on a fix for all the "temporary item" crashes (Modeling Clay, Lemegetion) via putting the stat modifications into vanilla Epiphora as opposed to a seperate item. I've got most of it figured out, but there's one section that's been giving me trouble for a while.

Just know that a fix'll probably be coming in the near future!

If it matters, it also crashes with modeling clay.

@HatNHoodie Dangit, right when I thought I was done with crash handling lmao
I'm just gonna ignore this one, honestly; getting Lemegetion, then getting Epiphora or EpiphoraDX with it is such a rare occurrence that I honestly don't think it's worth putting the time into fixing

does anyone else crash when getting this item with lemegiton

:O awesome!!!! i'll test and make sure it works later today, i'll let you know if anything's up!

:o

@Toriel I have excellent news.

Also, @amogus

sorry that this has been such an issue for you when making this mod.

hope this can eventually get fixed... ;-;

pls @ me when this gets fixed!

january 12, still crashes when co-op dies

december 17, still crashes on co-op death

This mod also causes the game to crash when dying as Sodom and Gomorrah

Nope, still crashing on player death in co-op

Alright; pretty sure I found the error with the new implementation.
Try updating now!

Same issue, crashing when a player dies.

It's still isn't working for co-op, at least for me.

Just added co-op support (hopefully), plus a couple other fixes!

Dunno about the recent update causing the game to crash; that should've been happening beforehand. The fix has to do with calling GetNumPlayers() instead of using Isaac.GetPlayer(0) directly

This mod has an issue with Co-op where when a player dies, the game will crash right before a player ghost is supposed to spawn.

This is not the only mod that has this problem, and it seems to have started happening ever since the most recent update, the one where all the characters got birthright.

The mods that have this problem that I know of are the following:

Undertale Characters
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2489861021

Sonichu necklace over Rock Bottom
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2561987835

Needles to Noodles
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2516876390

Epiphora Buffer Frames
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2550002491

Downward Void
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2544571584

Idk why this mod crashes the game in cooperative whenever a player dies

This mod bricks true co-op. When either player dies the game crashes, and it's this mod causing that. Please fix it if you can.

Wake me up when it's a rework and not a new item
(You did a really good job though )

@vtuber vomit compilation Yep; instead of modifying the original Epiphora (which, I'm not sure I'm able to do at all), I added a new item and swapped it in for Epiphora when Isaac picks it up.

It's functionally identical to a rework, aside from showing up in the Death Certificate room and disabling the Bag of Crafting API in EID.

someone in the previous comments said that this mod acts as if this was a new item rather than a rework

@vtuber vomit compilation Oh? What's worrying ya?

I'm interested in dowloading this mod but all the feedback worries me

@Alimasen Ah, that makes sense

it appears in death certificate

@Alimasen Yep! I'm assuming you saw it through Encyclopedia or something?

lol is this the mod that adds EpiphoraDX?

@Kevixer It COULD be possible via giving the player back the heart they lost and despawning the blood clot until the charge for those items finishes, but it'd kill Sumptorium's normal usage with a charge that long

i was looking through sumptorium mods and im trying to look for one that alows you to use maw of the void,revelation stuff like that without losing health and turning the health into blobs is there any mod like that?

@Nostaw Yep!

if you change the direction that you're firing the tears stat still resets?

ah damn that's unfortunate, thank you though!

@Bojangles That's because this mod actually does add a new item. I don't think I'm even able to access/manipulate the tear multiplier granted by Epiphora, so I just made a near-identical copy of it that I could easily modify.
I don't think there's anything I can really do until that part of EID adds support for modded items, sorry

The mod breaks the Bag of Crafting tooltip in External Item Descriptions (it says this mod adds a new item)

@AgentCucco Ah, gotcha; I was under the impression the cache was created right before POST_PLAYER_INIT. Just updated the mod so that cache check is no longer there. To be honest, I'm not even sure why I put it there in the first place, since the mod seems to work just fine without it.
Sorry for the trouble!

I had to debug for an hour to figure out why was my savedata setup not working, apparently the issue was this mod.

Please never, ever call EvaluateItems() on POST_PLAYER_INIT, it can break a lot of mods, since you are basically forcing a cache evaluation before cache is first evaluated.

We tend to load stuff on player init and use that data to then alter stats in the cache callback, but since your mod forces the cache update, our stuff tries to apply stats it hasn't loaded yet and everything breaks.

@Frost_the_dragon90 Weird. Are you sure it isn't from conflicting mods?

crashes upon starting a run :/

Epiphora actually sinergises with items? count me in

@Deorion Thanks a bunch! Just put out a patch to reset the multiplier on ending the game and while pressing the reset key, so hopefully everything's sorted out

bug: if you die with extra tears and start a new run, there will always be 5 tears. Only restarting the game helps

THANK. YOU.

Perfect.