So this mod still works, However it does not work on 2 types of missions. The first, is anything story driven, due to those being in their own bank, the second is pre-loaded missions. Any missions that have been generated before the mod was turned out will have the standard share rate. You must move to a new area and those missions will take the improved share rate. I hope this helps.

(deleted old post since didn't see edit)

so... it shows, but to be more specific, it doesn't seem to be working. is there something else needed to make this work with SoK?

It works, thank you!

Yeah, all of the generic/random contracts which aren't
- Part of a storyline/questline
- Part of a "high value contract" sidequest chain where you get quest markers and special dialog and equipment/mech/pilot rewards
- Solaris related

So in terms of DLC 7, yeah the mod should work the same way it always has where it just won't apply to the new storyline/questline and any new "high value contract" sidequests.

So DLC7 questline stuff or specific missions added are their own hing, bu just going o he map killin' people and collecting pay, i should work as i always had? Is that correct?

AFAIK it never stopped working? Pretty much anybody who has claimed that it stopped working was playing DLC questline/campaign or sidequest "high value" missions.

this still working?

There's a version that does 4 instead of 5 on the linked Nexus page, but I did not make a version for 10. You're welcome to examine this mod using the mod creation kit for MW5 (available on EGS I believe) and make a version that does 10 instead if you like.

there a way to change it from 5 to 10?

I can confirm this still works with the most recent patch

Yes, it should be totally safe to add mid-save AFAIK - unless something in the game itself blocks you from loading a save with a different set of mods enabled than the save was made with.

The new salvage share calculation for negotiation points won't take effect until you jump to a new planet though (that's when contract details get re-generated).

can this be added in mid save?

This mod should work for all the randomly-generated missions (not story-related or sidequests or DLC questlines - basically all the missions that show up with normal white icons), they haven't changed the base negotiation system. If it's not working for the new Arena missions (assuming they're randomly-generated and not part of a storyline/questline), it probably means that they use the same handcrafted "scenario" files which override the basic negotiation system.

The mod should be compatible with all DLCs, it just does not modify negotiations for the DLC questline/storyline missions or other missions which use handcrafted "scenario" files.

I hope there will be an update for the mod

@Menghis Khan Will you be updating this mod to be DLC 6 compatible?

Weird, but glad you managed to fix it with a re-sub and restart. I wonder if it just never installed correctly, or something about loading and finishing that DLC campaign put the mission generator into a weird state.

OK, had to unsub, launch, save, exit, resub, launch, and then leave the system and come back and it is working. All is well, please disregard last post.

Im trying procedural generated random missions after finishing Dragons Gambit, and it is not working. I will unload and reload the mod and retest, report back results.

Exactly, as @Illydth said. For whatever reason the devs decided to make individual scenario files including negotiation point values for every predefined (story, campaign, DLC, quest, etc) mission. This means that this mod only applies to the "regular" randomly-generated missions, because it would be a lot of work to also modify 50+ scenario files in the blueprint editor (unfortunately this is not just a YAML config file I could edit in bulk with find-and-replace or something). Honestly I find you'll tend to get more than enough benefit out of this mod just from the randomly-generated missions since those are mostly what you'll be doing during a Career or Campaign (especially the multi-part missions since unused salvage shares and insurance both accumulate).

Description says: If it's not procedurally generated, it's not going to apply. All Campaign missions, including the new DLC missions are NOT procedurally generated.

Doing the dragon's gambit dlc and doesn't seem to apply to any missions. Do all the dlc missions count as story missions then?

Hm, it should work even just jumping one planet over. Maybe they did add a cache for contracts on nearby or recently-visited planets? FWIW, in my local testing I did literally just jump one planet over and then back and it had updated properly from 3 shares per point to 5.

Anyway, glad you were able to clear that up.

yeah, there appears to be a cache for missions in regards to the salvage table, i hadn't jumped far enough away; i jumped next door but the value wouldn't go above 41 even though it was at 40 with 2 points to spare. but i went to a 3x higher threat area and it was threw the roof, so i warped back and they're all working properly now. thanks for checking as well, and sorry about the confusion.

I also verified it with an existing game save: at my current planet salvage shares were still 3 per point. As soon as I flew to a new planet, salvage shares were 5 per point. Flying back to the first planet, they were now also correctly 5 per point.

I also double-checked the game file which I edited in this mod for you all to make sure it is a base game file:
"/Game/Campaign/Progression/DataTables/DefaultNegotiationPointAllocation.uasset"
Yes it is a base game file (not a DLC file), and yes it still exists in the base game.

Did you:
- Remember to close and re-launch the game after activating this mod?
- Remember to travel to a new planet after activating this mod, since contract specifics (and their negotiation values) are only generated when you arrive at the planet?
- Remember that this mod specifically only works for randomly-generated missions? So not campaign missions or missions with are tied to other questlines.

I just loaded up the game and re-activated this mod (specifically this one I have here on Steam Workshop, not the variants I have up o Nexus), and started a new campaign and flew to a planet. Salvage shares per negotiation point with a 25% negotiation bonus was 6, which is correct for a base value of 5 (number of shares is rounded down to the nearest whole number).

i tested it, vanilla 10 shares at 25% bonus, 41 points. the mod didn't change this and i own zero of the DLC, so.

this mod does not seem to be working at this time.

Yeah I took out ten mechs in a row and the math just doesnt add up

its not working

I can confirm this mod works with the latest update Rise of Rasalhague.

@Sir Sunkruhm Yep, my bad. I remember reading this but must have forgotten it again because I mainly played non-story missions before the DLC release.

@Cyntonian you might want to read the description, mate... It does not work for ANY story missions or major side missions, only generic missions. It's literally in bold text in the description.

It appears to not fully work unfortunately. Started the new DLC story missions earlier and the salvage shares only increase by 3 instead of 5.

Hi

With the latest release of the new DLC "rise of rasalhague" this mod is still working. I do not own the new DLC, but the update for the vanilla game is working (for me). I have tested it yesterday.
It should be fine, as the author says below !
Thanks for this useful mod !

Thanks again Menghis Khan, glad your mod's still working

@Mad_rage12 as per the other times I've commented on this mod to this exact question: this mod should never stop working with new DLC unless they change the negotiation and salvage point system entirely (or they change the balancing of negotiation). This mod only changes a single file containing the base mapping of negotiation points spent to salvage points earned.

That being said, I haven't actually bought the new DLC yet or played this game myself in months. But none of the recent update news has been about them completely changing or rebalancing the negotiation point system from what I've seen.

is this mod currently working with the new DLC?

Very handy mod, cheers

considering the game dramatically changes the mech build and damage numbers from the base game to make it workable and fun there is no point holding to a thirty year old manual if its unfun. I appreciate this mod and it has made salvage points a viable mechanic.

Mr_who_42:
the only way to really get 100% salvage rights, in both FM Mercenary (Revised) and Campaign Ops, would be to have an incredibly good reputation (talking top 5% of mercs) or working for a really minor power. combing both to get it more reliably. It uses a 2d6 roll, and you need to roll a *13* or better to get it, meaning you need to have rep or minor power modifiers, which are plusses. If you're working for a great house (except free worlds league) there is an inherent minus on the roll; if you're working for the Combine or CapCon, even a Dragoons Rating of A+ wont get you enough to get 100% rights, as those two have a -2 to the roll, while A+ rating is only +1. Etc.

That's understandable.

@mr_who_42 That addresses the in-lore reasons why 100% salvage _might_ be possible for a merc company to negotiate in certain situations, but not my point that making it 100% salvage across the board (essentially would be giving like 999 salvage shares at 0 negotiation points spent) would be essentially a "cheat" given the game balance and mechanics.
But you are more than welcome to copy and modify this mod to do so yourself if you feel that strongly about it! The blueprint file I modifed for this should be listed in the mod.json file, and you'll need the MW5 editor from the Epic Games Store to modify the UE5 blueprint files and repackage them as a working mod.

I have no intention of creating another version of this mod that I feel equates to being a "cheat" mod for the game. I only make mods that I feel I would use myself, because typically I make them for myself first and then share them with the public.

I understand. I get that you want realism but 100% salvage in addition to pay is realistic, especially with top tier outfits that can command top tier pay and benefits. I can quote novels and game books that show that merc companies do negotiate have the opportunity for 100% salvage in addition to pay.

The 1997 field manual gave contract salvage basically said:

"The mercs keep anything they kill or capture that isn't specifically-noted"

"The mercs will be paid fair market value for any salvage recovered"

"The mercs get to keep some, and get paid fair market value for the rest"

"The mercs get nothing"

In the Novel Double Blind the merc company would literally use their mechs to drag as much salvage as they could off the field.

In the novel Wolves on the Border, Wolf's Dragoons got into a salvage dispute with House Kurita because in their contract they got 100% of all salvage rights that wasn't specifically mentioned in the contract as war materials claimed by House Kurita.

@mr_who_42 Unfortunately I do not plan on making such an expansion to this mod, as I feel that doing so would be *too* unrealistic (there's no way a Great House would pay a merc company to deal with a problem _and_ give you 100% salvage rights to everything from the mission). I also feel it would be way too OP financially, as after just a couple of warfare or otherwise combat-heavy missions you would be essentially set for life.

This is a quality-of-life mod that makes an aspect of the game which I felt was too brittle/strict more flexible, not a cheat mod.

I love this mod. I was wondering if it is possible to make a variation of this mod that has 100% salvage? I feel like if I was an elite merc company that I would have in my contract 100% salvage rights. Even with this mod I am often getting only 20-25% of the possible salvage with max salvage shares negotiated and hero faction. I must have left 2-3 regiments of legless/headless worth of mechs on the the field by now simply because I could not salvage them.

Works fine for me, running a career mode with all DLCs, don't forget to enable it in the main-menu y'all.

@Ole it has worked through the last couple of UI changes, since I last played the game after they updated the negotiation UI to be like a series of coloured blocks that fills in as you spend negotiation points. Also the only file this mod changes is the small table that defines how many salvage shares you get for a given number of negotiation points spent, to break this mod they would have to change entirely the negotiation point system or have for some reason switched to using a different table or dynamic calculation of shares per point.

I'm having issues with this as well. If I had to guess, based on the screenshot you have in here them changing the UI/UX is probably the cause of the issue. Might be trying to read something that isn't there anymore or something similar.

I did just pick the game up so take what I really have no idea what I'm talking about.

Game recently just went on sale so it got a resurgence of popularity

Thanks dad I appreciate you