塔罗斯的法则

塔罗斯的法则

Abomination 2
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Will_gamerboi 7 月 16 日 上午 1:18 
I can't get through the first portal even though i have prototype installed?
XanTi͢͢͢er꧂  [作者] 7 月 15 日 下午 1:08 
Download link for additional laser colors is renewed
big red foot 3 月 10 日 上午 11:16 
Still cannot find the third wand for lobby to get into world 5.
Will_gamerboi 2024 年 11 月 1 日 上午 6:43 
I can't fathom the complexity of these puzzles. Please make a map with "Beginner - Late-game TTP difficulty" puzzles.
XanTi͢͢͢er꧂  [作者] 2024 年 6 月 23 日 下午 2:43 
This is intended solution, yes
lapicidas 2024 年 6 月 23 日 上午 9:22 
@noob_saybot....Here I also puzzled and tried for a long time. The different height settings are just nuances. But there is a solution and it's also fun to work it out. If you get stuck at all, you can see the solution here: solution , although I'm not sure if my ending is intended.
noob_saybot 2024 年 6 月 23 日 上午 8:01 
What am I supposed to do in Back to School????? This level doesn't even give any clues except that this is a first grade math problem. I tried all positive and all negative but it doesn't work
Violets are blue 2023 年 3 月 9 日 下午 11:58 
okay sorry i just found it. im dumb :(
Violets are blue 2023 年 3 月 9 日 上午 11:30 
I believe i have to found it first before it's will appear in the pedestal in the lobby, i remember got 1 connector from world 1, 1 at the top of the castle using the fan in world 2, 1 was given at the start, where is the last one. i got the 1 cube from the ruin too. I have solve the puzzle from world 1 - 4, return to the start, ruin have 2 sigil left which i believe is behind the door that need red sigil from world 5 and 3 star. Lobby i have 3 star left with the sigil from behind world 5 door. dont know what im missing. The guy below me seem to have the same problem
Violets are blue 2023 年 3 月 9 日 上午 12:21 
where the 4th connector in the main hub, i can't open world 5 with 3 connector it's seem... the last pedestal doesn't have it
big red foot 2023 年 1 月 10 日 上午 10:48 
Love the game but cant get the third wand to appear on pedestal . I have completed all 4 worlds. wonder if i did something wrong. I also got through Ruins except needed red signals to get in cave part.
XanTi͢͢͢er꧂  [作者] 2022 年 12 月 31 日 上午 12:06 
Thank you very much, I'm glad you loved it <3
RolandsSh 2022 年 12 月 30 日 上午 3:39 
After playing Only Puzzles 5, I was inspired to push through Ruins despite the 7-8 FPS issue on my laptop. Love Story Part II was painful in particular as physics of stacked objects with recorders breaks down on such low FPS, but after many, many attempts I managed to succeed. After the ruins I didn't have much left, just the star puzzles and extra levels.
Man, I had forgotten how brilliant and absolutely breathtaking Abomination 2 is. Even with performance issue at places I would easily rank it as the best campaign out there, and arguably surpassing vanilla game and Gehenna. Puzzle quality, world design with visuals, hidden items, story - all of it is top notch.
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 13 日 下午 2:34 
OK, I just finished this with big thanks to lapicidas' videos for the more well-hidden stuff. Probably the biggest workshop map I've done, and there's a lot of cool stuff here (big improvement over the first Abomination).

I must say though, I'm not a big fan of puzzles locked behind other puzzles. The base game does it as a tutorial, but Gehenna doesn't (aside from the silver sigils and a few of the stars), and for workshop maps, I generally prefer more freedom. Also, I like puzzles that make me feel clever when I solve them. Weird parkour, finding really obscure secrets, and really specific connector angles are a lot less fun to me.
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 12 日 下午 7:10 
Love Story Pt.II was absolutely brutal, but it was a much better puzzle than the first Love Story (the first one was basically the same thing as Bridge Collapse from Outfall).

This one reminded me of floor 5 of the tower in the base game, but with a lot more to set up.

I think I'm only missing four purple sigils now and maybe a few stars.
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 11 日 下午 7:42 
The Tower v2 and v3 were also interesting. I didn't use the platform at all. I used a recording to sequentially jam the top and middle barriers to let myself through. Then I jammed the bottom barrier and went down and grabbed the sigil. Then I saw the QR code telling me to go back up, so I climbed the ladder, jammed the top barrier, climbed the other two ladders, and grabbed the sigil, surprised at how easy it was to get the second one. ;)
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 10 日 下午 6:47 
I think I overachieved a bit on Up and Down. https://imgur.com/a/VXTbaqB

I thought the four receivers would only open the door to the sigil and that I would need the jammer for the side door. I also realized doing that would leave a cube inside to elevate purple, so I thought this was intended! Honestly, I think freeing the jammer should be required, and there should be a cage around the blue source with a gap in just the right position that you need the full height of connector+cube+mine+fan at full strength.
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 10 日 下午 6:41 
@lapcidas and @AG Yes, lapcidas' video is exactly the same as my way.
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 10 日 下午 6:36 
@AG Yes, that is correct. However, red keeps the outer gates open and allows retrieving the cube from the outside. Once you have the cube inside, you can set it on the pressure plate and put a single connector on top of that for connecting red. Then you can use the freed connector to connect blue.
XanTi͢͢͢er꧂  [作者] 2022 年 4 月 9 日 上午 8:13 
@eyedunno11 I'm glad you liked this campaign too! As for green and other barriers just see what's inside, figure out when you should go through or wait until you figure out when you'll need it and reset. I added these barriers just to add another layer to puzzles which I like

@AG I'm glad you liked my campaign! eyedunno11 and lapicidas' solutions are intended solutions
AG 2022 年 4 月 8 日 下午 6:34 
Thanks lapicidis! This combined half of 2 other solutions I was trying. Can't believe I didn't put them together to come up with what you did :) On with the world!
lapicidas 2022 年 4 月 8 日 下午 6:09 
@AG and @eyedunno11....I found an alternative way for "To and Fro" (World 3):
:p2orange: https://youtu.be/QlNpHdMX4M8 :p2orange:
AG 2022 年 4 月 8 日 下午 4:34 
Hi eyedunno- looks like in the pic that you are using 2 connectors inside the metal fence. Is this correct? That would leave no connector for the blue light.?? I might be misinterpreting what you've done :)
AG 2022 年 4 月 8 日 下午 4:19 
Thanks eyedunno11. That was one of the methods I was trying to do. I think more patience on my part required to get it just right! Thanks again!
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 8 日 上午 11:52 
@AG Here's how I made it work. I just used pretty specific positioning like so:
https://imgur.com/F7hws8W
AG 2022 年 4 月 7 日 下午 6:53 
OK, scrap my issue 1 from below, Found another way!. So it;s just issue 2 (W3 To and Fro) that's preventing me from going any further in the game :( Would appreciate help from anyone on this!
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 6 日 下午 9:54 
I noticed the icons for Walking on Water show a fan and a cube, but there is a connector in there too.

Also, I have to say, I sort of have mixed feelings about the green barriers. It's a decent mechanic, but would work better in something like a top-down game than in this game because in this game, you have to explore to figure out what to do, and the green barriers have massive softlock potential. I think Carousel was about five resets for me.
AG 2022 年 4 月 6 日 下午 8:56 
Hi, this game is truly wonderful! There are 2 issues stopping me from going any further in the game.
1. 3rd star in star realm (in world 4). That lump of rock that you place the cube on in the beginning of the puzzle does not exist in my game?? Plus the connector from the other side of the ivy won't connect to the receiver to open the gate.. Does any one else have this problem?
2. World 3 To and Fro. The pillars of the wall with the first lot of gates that the red light unlocks are too thick/deep, compared to your walkthrough. This doesn't allow me to connect the red source with the receiver using 1 connector. Any thoughts on how to solve for this?
Once again, really enjoying this game!!
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 6 日 下午 5:03 
I didn't like Colourful Confusion in the original campaign, but the one here (or four here?) is a big improvement. The map is a little cleaner, so it feels better to play, and the state changes after each sigil is collected are cool.
eyedunno11 2022 年 4 月 5 日 下午 4:57 
I started this one yesterday and am halfway done with world 2. So far the puzzles are overall much better than in the original Abomination, and the world is nicer looking.

I still am not a fan of locking puzzles behind other puzzles (the base game does it to introduce concepts, but it's mostly not necessary in workshop maps IMO), but at least the hub world feels much nicer than the hub in the first game felt.
lapicidas 2022 年 3 月 6 日 上午 6:35 
Getting the jammer from up there is probably not intended. I found an alternative solution for that level: World 1 - Toppled
PrologicMind 2022 年 3 月 6 日 上午 4:13 
@lapicidas I barely made it https://youtu.be/gwmkV5wIukw :steambored:
lapicidas 2022 年 3 月 6 日 上午 1:13 
@ProLogic Mind...if you accept my friend request we can chat without filling the comment area unnecessarily
PrologicMind 2022 年 3 月 6 日 上午 12:43 
@lapicidas I tried do it from first person and third person many times
PrologicMind 2022 年 3 月 6 日 上午 12:35 
@lapicidas Perhaps, I need to change something in the settings. I tried this and that, but it didn't work
lapicidas 2022 年 3 月 6 日 上午 12:16 
@ProLogic Mind...First, I would like to apologize for the claim that there is no connector at 0:46.
I had trouble with "YouTube" so it showed me something else.
But now to your problem. I see that it doesn't show you when to release the connector. Very strange. I played it again and it works quite well for me: https://youtu.be/k-XnVQlfz70
Also in first person perspective: https://youtu.be/HubcrXadOC0 But it's a bit more fiddly though.
You might want to change the view from first person to third person and try again. I can change the view with "H" on the keyboerd. You can check or change whether this is the case for you as well: https://youtu.be/aylcY93fk2o
PrologicMind 2022 年 3 月 5 日 上午 9:45 
PrologicMind 2022 年 3 月 5 日 上午 6:58 
@lapicidas I'm stuck in this place and can't move on
PrologicMind 2022 年 3 月 5 日 上午 6:52 
@lapicidas 0:46 he cannot put connector on a cube. It just doesn't get enough
Perseus 2022 年 3 月 1 日 上午 9:33 
Apparently, i managed to bug out the system that teleports connectors to a set location in the main hub, because i only have 3 connectors + a cube.
I'm missing the third pedestal's connector, which makes it impossible for me to open world 5.

About the 15 fps ruins, if it's the high number of things that causes problems, why not remove all of those outside the main buildings? Wouldn't that help?

About "things left behind"(and therefore also "dying is an option"), the somewhat precise jump is incredibly annoying and frustrating. Same goes for the slalom part of "slalom", or any skill/luck based thing in a puzzle.
lapicidas 2022 年 3 月 1 日 上午 7:58 
Maybe. Although I don't see it as wrong, There are often different ways to solve a level. Show us yours.
PrologicMind 2022 年 3 月 1 日 上午 7:10 
Perseus 2022 年 2 月 27 日 上午 3:41 
@Lapicidas Sorry, only the "thank you" part was meant for you, i wasn't sure how to make that clear so i used newlines but obviously that didn't do the trick.
(I meant the pillars in front of ruins 2)
lapicidas 2022 年 2 月 27 日 上午 2:12 
@Perseus...I am not the creator of Abomination 2 and therefore do not know every scene by heart. Which secret do you mean? There are quite a few in this campaign. Which pillar do you mean. Please describe it to me in more detail -I will be happy to answer you if I can.

To point D: I created a solution for each puzzle that was the most plausible for me. I know that there are often alternatives. If you found one in "Up the Stairs" without that cube - so much the better. It would be nice if you would show the video about it.
Perseus 2022 年 2 月 27 日 上午 1:28 
@lapicidas Thank you.


Now that i know what i was missing, i have several questions :
A) Why is there a mandatory secret?
B) Why do you need to click on a pillar? It's not intuitive, and very easily missable.
C) Why are there pillars there in the first place if you're supposed to be able to get past them this easily, especially since one can miss the click prompt or not even hover the cursor over the pillar and become convinced they need come from above, possibly using a fan?

D) Also i looked at the solution for getting a fourth box in "up the stairs" and, if that's the intended one, why is that a thing you're supposed to do? It feels cheap.
lapicidas 2022 年 2 月 26 日 上午 5:57 
@Perseus... there is another red L-tetromino (sigil). It is in the start - area. You can see it in my very first solution vid at 2:37. And in the vid "Abomination2 - Ruins 2 Entrance" - you can see how to get it.
Perseus 2022 年 2 月 26 日 上午 1:46 
Am i missing something or is this impossible(maybe from after an update)? The only red reverse-L-shaped sigil is located in World 5, but both the laser receivers and the sigils required to open World 5 are locked behind Ruins, which requires the aforementioned red reverse-L-shaped sigil of world 5 to access!

Also it might just be me but i find the QR codes with "me" as the author to be very jarring.
XanTi͢͢͢er꧂  [作者] 2022 年 2 月 7 日 下午 12:58 
@krikritof I'm really glad you loved it <3
krikritof 2022 年 1 月 19 日 上午 10:39 
Hello I am French, I use google translate, I hope this will be understandable:
I just saw ending 1. Wow that was awesome, what an imagination! I loved this campaign even if 2 or 3 things were too difficult for me, Love Story 2 omg I thought I was going to tear my hair out! 3 days to think about to finally succeed lol. An excellent job, a lot of respect, I'll try to see the second ending, and then we'll wait for ttp2 this year :) Thank you very much :)
rwright0890 2022 年 1 月 12 日 下午 12:55 
@lapicidas... Thanks for the alternate solution, too. That is actually easier to execute than making that difficult jump.