i love you oh great wise shidan

Dont you have one patch for living world? I found a south hiver with tiny head with strong stats. I want to recruit him

It is irrelevant. Both should be higher than this patch, but between each other it doesn't matter.

should Reactive World or Recruitable Prisoners be higher in load order?

If you're using a translation odds are the patch can't see it, as it would only look for the original mod file. Nothing I can do about that.

But as long as the translation did not drastically change any data, the patch should still function, as the data it attempts to edit should still be present. You'd just have to live with the error.

Or you can skip using the patch. The mods do not have major conflicts, this patch is simply there to add the dialog for recruiting to any of my new characters in RW. So the worst effect of not using the patch is that certain characters you won't be able to recruit as prisoners.

Does it have some specific install requirements? I mean I put it directly below RW. RW is currently sandwiched inbetween RP and this patch. It still sais that the order is wrong. It might be because I'm using the Russian translation of RW but I'm not sure...

@shidan my bad, I actually meant to post it there but was up late and braindead at the time. Thanks

Feel like that should be a question for the main recruit prisoners mod. Unless you have reason to think my mod is breaking them. But it shouldn't, as neither this mod or Reactive World touch the starving bandits much at all, certainly not in a way that would alter dialog.

For some reason I'm unable to recruit starving bandits, but all other races work. Any ideas? I've played with the load order but no dice

In what order should I have these three mods? I also have Dialogue Expanded, if there isn't a conflict where should that sit in the load order?

Thank you very much good sir!

No. It's all dialog changes, which is fully save game compatible.

Do I need to import save game after adding this mod?

Apparently upon re-installation of your compatibility patch, i have been unable to replicate my previous crashes. No issues for now.

They should work fine with or without this mod. As they don't use unique character entries, just the normal Dust Bandit ones. So if you can recruit Dust Bandits, you should be able to recruit the splinter groups.

Unfortunately this compatibility patch doesn't seem to allow me to recruit dust bandits from the reaver, etc groups.

That feels like it almost has to be a mod conflict with something else, and even then I don't get why it would crash. All the mod does is add an existing dialog package to already existing characters, doesn't even add anything new itself.

What area are you switching to? And can you post the crashdump so I can investigate it?

it would appear this compatibility mod crashes my game when i switch to a squad in a different zone. when i turn this off in the start up menu, there is no crash.

Yes, Bad Teeth will stay under HN control, unless the override has already flipped.

And if the override has flipped already, it will flip back to HN after an import. As well as dialog and other world state effects still considering the HN as not being defeated yet.

@Shidan I recruited the inquisitor that runs Bad Teeth and even though Valtena and Seta is already captured, Bad Teeth still remains HN's. Do I have to kill the inquisitor?

This mod also adds the dialogs to some generic NPCs added by the mod too.

The best way to avoid issues is to not recruit unique characters with recruit prisoners at all, stick to generics.

Even avoiding this patch will not stop you from causing problems, as there are plenty if vanilla NPCs you can recruit to cause these same types of problems.

To avoid any chance of bugging my game, would it be better to not install this patch and not risk recruiting a critical NPC? RP will otherwise work normally for anything not added by Reactive?

@Shidan hey im back again to tell you that the crash mistakes are not happening anymore, i noticed that the game had maybe translation problem but like sometimes sentences in the game would be half french and half english for me, and i thought it might have been the problem with recruitable prisoners because sometimes prisoners would talk to me in both languages too, so i switched to english only in the start menu and now my game is fine with the mod, not a single crash at all when trying to talk to them, idk if it will help you at all, but at least it might help someone one day that had my problem

@Shidan thank you so much again, ill try to look more into which one is making me crash

Generally it's a rendering error. So, race mods, animation mods, UI mods, and texture/reshade mods can all cause it in my experience.

@Shidan its okay man thanks for answering ill try to look anyway, do you have any idea what type of mod it might be thats causing the issues?

Odds are it's another mod doing something to those NPCs. There is a rendering error crash that happens when initiating dialog with certain mods on. Unfortunately, what mods cause it and which NPCs it happens to are quite varied, so I can't help much there. :/

do you guys know why i sometime crash when i try to speak to peoples i captured? (paladins in my case

@Shidan Yeah it was a Triangle Bandit, Holy Nation Paladin, and a Starving Bandit that I tried it on. There is no dialogue option when they are in the cage, even if I take all of their items, and leave them in there for days.

The only mods I have installed are RW, Recruitable Prisoners, and this patch.

Did you disarm them? Are you certain the characters are from RW? If the characters are form some other mod, they'd need their own patch mod.

I have everything in order, but I dont even have the option to talk to my prisoners.

I was trying to figure out why RP wasnt working now i see RW was clashing i had no idea. ty for this fix. i try it now.

Below the two mods it is a patch for. Besides that, its position shouldn't really matter, as it barely touches anything.

Where do I put this on the list of mods? The lowest?

THANKS! A 100% helpful answer in 10 minutes! You're a badass!

No, this patch should not require an import at all, it only makes dialog changes, which are fully save compatible.

Importing brings up your characters, and then optionally can bring your bases and buildings, faction relations, research, and the statuses of unique NPCs. By default no dead or imprisoned unique NPCs would respawn on import, unless you choose to change that setting.

Realized too late that I hadn't install this by the time I had my mod stack sorted out... and I'm quite fond of the progress I've made so far...

Does this patch require an import? Sorry for the newb question but: what kinds of things reset on an import? I don't want to have to deal with dead characters being alive and so forth.

@Dave - I mean, there are certainly far worse ones to recruit. Both have few important world states.

When you recruit a character, the game will continue to track their world states just like normal, even while part of your faction. So as long as you don't want the game to think that character has been defeated, you'd be fine recruiting them.

The problems arise when people recruit characters they do want defeated. For instance, they'll recruit the Dust King, but want his raids to stop as well. That's not gonna happen.

But if you say, recruit Tinfist, then want to take him and go destroy the United Cities, that would be fine. Tinfist being alive will not hinder your world states int he United Cities.

is recruiting Catlon or Tinfist a bad idea?

is it possible to recruit the Shek Hunter Leader?

Said characters are generally pretty obvious. Faction leaders, or other prominent characters in the faction.

So for instance you wouldn't want to recruit the Phoenix, or a High Inquisitor. Nobles from the UC are also a bad idea, or a bandit leader like the Dust King.

Hmm, is there a list of these important characters one should NOT recruit. Is it possible to mod some sort of visuals to their name like instead of having `Bob` you would see `* Bob *` ?

Thank you for your answer, that's sad to hear. Luckily i just wanted to be able to recruit a generic NPC, so i was able to solve the problem myself. Keep up the great work regardless!

That's not really possible. The mods are too similar, and overlap in too many places. A patch for them would be a large undertaking.

Hey man, love the mod! I was just wondering if you ever thought about making a compatibility patch for Living World?

Below reactive world is the only requirement. Not that it matters, since the game won't let you run it out of order without popping an error to inform you.

whats load order?

Sorry, forgot to check yesterday. :P

Just checked, and I don't have any NPCs named that, as I suspected. So it's got to be another mod.

Definitely could be, I wasn't able to track it down with the FCS either so no worries. Probably user error or as you said a different mod's NPC. Thanks for the quick response!

Don't believe I have any NPCs with that name. I'll check tomorrow to be sure, but I suspect that is another mod's NPC.