I don't think there was a CS1 update recently?

Are we getting another update? Paradox surprise updates do a great job of permanently destroying mods.

tbh the trolleybus problem has been here for several years until I finally *correctly* understood it and fixed it several months ago

Thanks, that solved the problem, I didn´t consider that the Steam Workshop doesn´t do the updates on its own

@Kai Gaming

Please make sure you are using the latest version of this mod:

unsub -> load to main menu -> resub -> load to main menu

It appears that this mod breaks Trolleybuses. They operated as usual but didnt pick up any passeengers. I tried multiple things including recreating the routes, only using vanila roads and vehicles, checking mods with Skyve, restarting the game(and PC)and clearing traffic using TMPE. Then I created an exact copy of the routes with normal buses and that woirked. Only removing this mod solved the issue.

Works well

Very cool and even cooler you can make a realistic Hong Kong style bus system!

Thx soooo much bro! That is definitely what I want.

@Vectorial1024

Well I appreciate all of you creators who are still contributing to cs1 as I never planned to transition to CS2. I personally see no reason to do so given that cs1 is good enough in my book.

Thank you again for your contribution(s)!

absolute based take

To whom it may concern:

The reason why I didn't/haven't moved on to CS2 is because CS2 is still too ♥♥♥♥ to mod. Where modding API?

Thank you so much. I can't wait for the fix.

辛苦了。天際線一代人氣今年開始覺得不少轉到二代去了，很高興看到還有人這麼用心在一代的mod上維護。

@everyone

A very very likely cause of the trolleybus NullReferenceException was discovered with the help of an LLM; see https://github.com/Vectorial1024/ExpressBusServices/issues/42 for more details.

@Thigh Enjoyer
@hsuyihsiang

A technical update was released just now to hopefully narrow down where exactly the trolleybus bug is coming from. You may try out the update and provide updated error logs if the bug still occurs.

@hsuyihsiang

有趣的發現, 我稍後跟進一下

有沒有可能是你的invert unbunching沒有支援到trolleybus

我把遊戲全刪，模組資產全刪，然後全部重裝

開全新遊戲，trolleybus本來也運行的好好的，但遊戲中我一把express bus service從respect,調成invert unbunching 那一瞬間就跳錯誤

The thing is, I can't even reliably (re)trigger the error. I can only guess what went wrong.

Is the trolleybus issue still not fixed? I get that error message every 30 seconds on average and its bugging me out. Here is the error recorded on the output log in case it is another issue: {链接已删除}https://pastebin.com/pQUZJT4N

OMG finally busses don't just stay there doing nothing at each stop congesting the road! They go as soon as they can! Thanks! :D

@everyone

As Public Transport Unstucker (my other mod) turns out to still be important, I need to disclose that, the legacy "unstuck the buses" feature of this mod was removed during the 1 June update.

Public Transport Unstucker https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2774427140 has the "unstuck the buses" feature, so please also use that instead.

Clearly not made by me, but you all may be interested in this new mod (coincidentally released on the same day as the EBS update): Better Bus Stop Position.

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3491515535

@everyone

As stated in the changenotes, this update has a partial rewrite, and something internal has changed. You will need to also update your copy of the IPT2 plugin and the TLM plugin together with this update.

@倒映蓝天

請同時更新/下載 IPT2 plugin

更新后出现了不断报错的现象
https://pastebin.com/SXpnBkfx

@Mepzeta

See https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2774427140 instead; but at least you should deduce whether those "long waiting time" is due to unbunching or due to a vanilla bug fixed by the above linked mod

Hi! Does the mod solve long exessive boarding time on buses and other kinds of transport?

idk, in the past people reported trolleybuses just getting stuck at the stop forever, so this could be serious

tbf I dont even know what's going on, so there's no way for me to suppress the error message

Thank you for the quick response! The error doesn't seem to cause any issues, and things still work as expected, so I wonder if there's a way to just suppress the error message?

Hi there!

The problem with trolleybuses seem to just persist after many attempts to fix it, so idk what's actually going on, but still I will write it down for future investigation

Like, it doesn't happen with articulated buses, and it doesn't happen with trams, but only with trolleybuses.

https://github.com/Vectorial1024/ExpressBusServices/issues/38

I'm getting this error fairly consistently, and it seems to be happening when one of my two trolleybuses is approaching a stop:

Simulation error: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at ExpressBusServices.Patch_PublicTransportExtraSkip.ExtraSkippingLogic (VehicleAI,uint16,Vehicle&) <0x009bb>
...

https://pastebin.com/FDQubgh5

@karltherbt

我初步完全見唔到囉

我需要你用 Extended Error Reporting 然後再用一次 aggressive mode trolleybus 直至出事, 然後將 error log 貼出

無log的話, 我就當作無事發生

總之較返Legacy mode之後就無呢個問題，你可以睇下Aggressive mode係咪導致trolleybus AI有D野做唔到搞到成日彈Dialog

@karltherbt

為能順利解難, 請同時安裝 Extended Error Reporting, 並將問題貼出 (可以係呢度)

To assist debugging, please also install Extended Error Reporting, and paste the stacktrace (here or elsewhere)

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2055465280

理論上已經支援trolleybus好耐了, 但幾年嚟總有人表示"trolleybus壞咗"

至少先確定已經係用緊11月嘅更新?

@karltherbt

應該已經支援的

剛才開左個有trolleybus嘅存檔，一load完就不停彈：
Simulation error: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
我當時set左行Aggressive mode，無論有冇中途收車再出車都彈呢句野，轉返做Legacy先暫時無彈出來，想問你個mod係咪無支援到trolleybus，所以就有咁既問題呢？

@karltherbt

Re 2: Cities Skylines 公共交通路線上限255條, 未確定乘客嘅固定需求之下 (尤其是同時使用 Real Time), 唔建議浪費限額去開短棍新線, 我寧願你繁時加車就算, 等本mod自動調節

另外, 私牌回車主要係針對單向通勤, 同短棍並無太大直接關係, 當然本mod係容許私牌中載的

Re 3: 好複雜的, 建議使用盟友mod Transport Lines Manager (t1a2l) https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3007903394

@karltherbt

Re 1: 輕微哲學: 我首先要認識香港電車/輕鐵嘅實際運作, 然後先可以描述各自嘅內在模式, 正如要先認識物理上嘅"紅", 先可以描述概念上嘅"紅"

我唔會有充足時間去認識/確定世界各地嘅所有例子, 但至少我聽講中國公交係必須站站停 (引致近年香港境內愈嚟愈多乘客搞事事件), 日本巴士太早到站係強制停留至表定時間先再開出, 早幾年亦有一位外國(美國?)網友, 於本留言區大力炮打本mod飛站功能, 因為佢十分相信飛站會"降低行車效率" (?????), 你可以自己翻查

輕率假設全世界都係按照同一原則運作, 然後因此不解釋, 是很危險的

少少意見：
1. 說明果度太多香港例子，用輕鐵/電車模式做例子，人哋未必能夠理解，全世界亦唔係只得香港會無人撳鐘/揮手就飛站
2. 私牌回車功能睇落好似多餘，開多條中途折返嘅路線已經有短棍效果
3. 會唔會考慮加返個日/夜限定路線要行足全程先回廠嘅選項，次次行到中途就走好似幾無癮

@karltherbt

未試過, 要先研究點整

有冇辦法整到停站模式跟存檔決定而唔係統一？

Maintenance update now available to fix game-freezing bug with depot-disabled return-to-base behavior.

PSA: it is now 2024. and if you are using TLM, please ensure you are using t1a2l's TLM
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3007903394&searchtext=transport+lines+manager

The t1a2l TLM contains some bugfixes that may have solved the trolleybus problems.

My guess is when the mod tries to find alternate paths for trolleybuses, since it is unlikely to have any alternate paths, the game gives null exception.

Disclaimer: I do not have Sunset DLC; I will just open a new GitHub issue for now

Hello so uh for some reason using aggressive mode along with trolley bus are causing null error, and it happened to both vanilla and modded one. Switching back to prudential mode work tho.

I aint changing the Prudential modes, that is for sure.

OK. It's not too much of a problem as long as the Prudential/Legacy option remains unchanged in some form through future updates.

I'm assuming it might also be OK to use Aggressive or Experimental, as long as you remember to switch to Prudential when modifying trolley lines. This would likely not be very possible if you use the scheduling features of TLM, though.

@Sabretooth78 I do not really own Sunset Harbor, so that side I am not exactly sure what happened.

I can revisit later when I have more time to re-read my code, etc.