@Frogpaste I'm not too sure about clothing options, I can look into it, but I suspect that any modding I do in that regard may make the mod incompatible with things like the Community Flavor Pack, which I'd rather not do.

@Oficial Dimitry I would like to do more with the adultery doctrines, but I don't really think it's feasible. Originally when I made this mod I wanted to remove the polyamory tenet and split it into male/female polyamory in the adultery category, but in looking through the files, there are simply too many event files that check for the doctrines specifically rather than using a scripted trigger or checking for doctrine parameters. All of these events would need to be overwritten for it to work correctly, which would both be a huge amount of effort to do/upkeep and also limit compatibility with other mods which change the same files. As one of my goals with this mod is to keep it as light as possible I don't think there will be any adjustments to adultery doctrines in this mod, as much as I would like to do so.

I love this mod!
One idea to make it even better is to separate adultery and fornicator, instead of letting both together as if they were the same thing.

Hello, I absolutely love this mod, makes creating religions so much more fun, so thanks for making it.

I had an idea for another doctrine option, no idea if its workable. It would be nice to have the option to choose the garments of the faith's clergy. For example if you were creating a Christian faith with syncretic folk traditions in Africa, you could choose to have priests wear the African headdresses worn by pagans.

This should be core part of the game...

Well, the latest bugfix patch will require a small update for the changes to Divine Marriage. I should be able to get to that today or tomorrow, but until then you can still run the mod just fine, it won't have the new "incest is virtuous for divine marriage" addition though.

Hey if i may make a suggestion....would you consider switching Arewordik's Adaptive Tenet to Cthonic Redoubts.

As a religion (even for Zoroastrianism) its kinda dead and never seen in a way similar to Yazidi. I think giving it Cthonic Redoubts would make it a more compelling goal/narrative choice for those playing the Apostolic Armenians to switch to since it shares regional holy sites.

was indeed the problem, not sure why. I can claim and im happy thx

ahh i overlooked that. Man now i need some normal ruler in my dwarf kingom...
thx for the insight. funny enough i play as roman out of the character creator and they dont have this tradition, but maybe the roman culture is buggy

@LuckDevil Only thing I can think of is that under Byzantine cultural traditions, rulers can't press claims for characters that are in some way disfigured/blemished and they must be able to produce children. Is it possible that was causing an issue?

@Ghost Fox The doctrines file works a bit differently, because core_tenets are all part of one big block of code that has to be carried over in its entirety to modify. Doctrines don't work like that, each category is its own block and they can be modified individually. Which is to say, this mod doesn't touch most of the doctrines, just consanguinity (and nudity special category), so that's the only one I need to include. I add two of my own doctrine categories, but thankfully I don't actually have to edit the base game code for that.

@LuckDevil I really can't think of any interaction this mod would do that would cause you to be unable to make claim wars.

@fhqwhgads Tenets file didn't change, but doctrines did. Might want to make sure you got that copied over.

Hi, im not entirely sure if that is this mods fault but i reformed the hellenic faith and now i cant use claim casus belli wars. i tried with other standard faiths and there i can use the claim casus belli.

@smirkyshadow It should. Paradox didn't really change anything that required new code from me, so I pretty much just version updated.

As someone that reformed a pagan faith in a current heavily modded run with this mod - yeah this seems to still be working! Beyond additional religion mods pushing the gender-type-denomination-syncretism row of tenets at the top pushing off the screen if I have any other mods that add tenets.

is everything working?

It looks like the core_tenets file was not updated, which is... very odd. It means I don't have to change much to update this mod. Still, there was an update to the core doctrines file, so I'll need to see if anything changed there I need to address, but I'd expect me to have this working quite soon.

@JSJosh I don't really have the time/energy to put into maintaining a compatch, so I can't promise anything there. As for decisions, I tried to replace effects/decisions/events in the cases where religions are reformed via decision to make them end with the proper number of tenets and doctrines. If you find some outlier let me know.

Also, how does this work with decisions like "Revive Taltosism" that change religions, and especially replace a tenet with syncretism?

Is it possible to have a compatch between this mod and 'Celebrate Crimes'? :) I really like your mod and their mod and I'm not sure what to pick!

@KnusperPaul I don't really have the resources to do that.

Are you considering translating this mod into other languages?

Oddly it looks like none of the religious files were changed in this patch. That may mean very little work for me to update. I'll have to test to be sure, but expect an update very soon.

For those who suffer UI issue due to Rice/TCT or CaD - just subscribe to More bookmarks+ and extract from gui folder gui for faith , than create empty mod with that only files and put in the end of your load order - so you will have scroll bars for tenets and doctrines

@ComradeOtaku That is certainly something I could consider in the future. I do like the idea, just a bit hesitant about how much of vanilla I want to change.

@GG棒 I would like that, but it is outside the scope of this mod.

Great idea and great mod. I have but one minor suggestion, namely making polyamory the default doctrine on relationships for religions that accept both male and female adultery.

I hope that my religion can be reformed by directly changing dogmas and doctrines, because I am happy with the name of my religion, and I don't want to create so many religions, and the cost of change is the same as creating a Protestant.
我用中文说一下
我希望可以通过直接变更教条和教义的方式改革我的宗教，因为我对我宗教的名字很满意，而且我也不想创造那么多宗教，变更的费用和创造新教一样就可以了。

Very elegant solution to the tenets problem. Thank you for this mod!

yeah my bad i was playing with RICE. that mod adds an extra doctrine to zoroastrian religions, cutting off some elements in the ui

I tried to make the icons smaller and it looks all right to me, but I can do some more adjustment. Just to be sure, are you running with other mods?

awesome mod, but now the main doctrines window is too crowded and some elements are cut off from view

It's a nice idea, but I don't think it's even possible barring modifying every single event that involves taking off your clothes. That's one of the reasons why I didn't go for gender-specific polyamory.

Would it be a good idea to mod in gender-specific clothing laws? I feel it would fit in well with the Medieval Matriarchs mod.

yes, im running with other mods. wasted your time sorry. but find a mod complete this state

Rite to Doctrine

@Dan S Sean I'm not able to reproduce, seems to work fine for me: https://i.imgur.com/1Sj7Cdd.jpeg

Are you running with any other mods enabled?

Tenet "Rite" don't work, new faith dont follow their old "Head of Faith", old faith "Catholicism"。

Shit I finally got one and was actually right; I took out the catholic trinity and its compatibility patches from the load order and now it works properly on a new game.

I actually dropped the one mod from their list that I thought might be causing the conflict and wanted to see if it resolved but this time I picked Jewish and can't find one that requires it for the life of me lol.

All right appreciate the response my good man.

Looking at More Bookmarks+ it is possible they have integrated an older version of the mod and simply haven't updated. You'll need to get in touch with them.

@K.DeWitt By "more bookmarks incorporation" what exactly do you mean? The current version of the mod I have here should have the correct lines of code (can_use_islamic_artefacts etc) in the correct spots.

My syncretism doctrines don't seem to be allowing me to use artifacts of that religion properly I am not sure if that is an intended change, only occurs in the more bookmarks incorporation of the mod (which is what I am actually using) or if its just all together a conflict I have in my order. Any advice at all?

Most likely not, any mods that overwrite the core tenets file can't be compatible with each other unfortunately.

Is this compatible with AGOT?

I really don't understand why this isn't in the base game

An update has been posted. Let me know if there are any remaining issues.

Note to make you might want to give the Zoroastrian and Behafarid a once over, both religions are missing a tenet so they're down to 2/3

not comp. with MB+? game crashes like @jpness422

No worries, thanks for looking into it at least!

In any case, to be certain, I loaded up the game with only this mod installed and ran in observer mode for a while. No crashes, and I checked the error.log afterward, no hits for this mod. It seems fine for me for the current patch, but as always, I cannot guarantee compatibility with other mods, especially those that alter religion. I do my best, but the way the core_tenets file is set up I can't really alter any specific tenet without overwriting them all.