Anyone who wants to make a successor to this patch for any purpose can do so.

Then what about Ethics and civics classic?

This patch will no longer be maintained. Ethics and Civics Alternative - FunEFork by MrFunEGUY has built-in compatibility with GVP so I encourage you to just use that instead.

I have the other version installed, nvm

I think something is awry here, republicanism only allows for oligarchy (thankfully I use this form of government the most as an indirect democracy would be so chaotic and in most cases anti RP on a galactic scale). So its not an issue for me but yeah idk why it isn't allowing for indirect democracy.

my game was really laggy when using this

Nothing changed in the mod that would require a change here iirc, so the warning about being out of date is just a warning. Unless there is a problem to report.

@LittleRaskol might need to update to 3.6 at this point.

Finally moved over a few (not very gameplay-impactful but important to the backend) changes from GVP.

By the way, looking over the Orion change notes, I don't really anticipate needing an update for the new version of Stellaris.

That's... actually very strange. There shouldn't be anything suppressing the GVP-added names in either this patch or the E&C mod.

@Domituti - This seems to work just fine with 3.5.

Does anybody know if it's possible to retain GVP's empire naming conventions while using E&C and this? It works perfectly fine besides making empire names boringly vanilla again.

will we get a 3.5 update? I really liked this patch and was wondering of the eta

This patch requires content from both GVP and E&C, so it has to be positioned such that it can reference both. I think that's after both?

or do I load the patch in between the mod like Gov, Patch, then Civics & Ethics ?

so how does the mod loader looking like for this mod?

Do I put it like:
Government Variety - First
Ethics & Civics - Second
The Patch - Last ?

Added a link to a Bug Branch patch by AmberAmbitions for anyone looking for that.

This should be up to date now.

Appreciate you patching this at all led alone on anyone's schedule but your own -- looking forward to bug branch compat. ^^

hey thank you for this

Gotta wait for a bug branch compability too

When people start paying me a salary for this, they can expect answers to questions like that.

was updated yesterday so when would an update of this mod be expected?

It does not, but I have been thinking that since the mod this is a patch for seems somewhat abandoned, I should probably release a new patch for a similar mod (i.e., one adding the same kinds of ethics as the original) that is actually being kept up to date. It will probably be for Bug Branch since that is what I get asked the most about.

Does this compatibility patch work for Ethics and Civics: Bug Branch?

I went back and forth on that one and I'm not sure anymore why I settled on allowing it even though, as you say, it's somewhat contrary to the historical idea. So I might change it.

I would venture to argue that Republicanism should be barred from Direct Democracy as its ideals are counter intuitive

It should work with the new version as well. I did not change any of the files this uses substantially. But I will change the required item.

It also needs to be updated to use the 3.4 version of the GVP mod (or at least list it as a requirement instead of the 3.3 version).

If it needs to be. Right now all I can think to do is change the listed compatible version number. How does it look in game, any errors?

Will this be updated for 3.4?

I can think of some ways to make it hurt but it would be a mess.

Okay, that's... much more substantial. What's actually happening is that the original mod used the tokens "ethic_socialism" and "ethic_capitalism" for "Cooperative" and "Competitive" while bug branch changes the tokens to match the localization ("ethic_cooperative" and "ethic_competitive"). These internal tokens are what the game actually checks for. It's going to be a bit harder to make that work in one patch. So hm.

Bug Branch splits "Cooperative vs Competitive" into "Pluralist vs Elitist" and "Cooperative vs Competitive". Everything that was into Cooperative/Competitive has is now in Pluralist/Elitist and Cooperative/Competitive has no civics from this mod, as a result.

From looking through the civic and authority definitions in Bug Branch, it seems like the main thing I need to do here is check for its new corporate civics (either as a requirement or to preclude them). If I do that, I'll set this to be based primarily on Bug Branch but with a note that it will work with other versions of that family of mods.

I don't see (from looking at the files at least) what you mean by "Pluralist vs. Elitist appears to have fully subsumed Cooperative vs Competitive" can you elaborate?

Thanks for looking into this. I'm not sure how much time I have for a new patch, but there might be a way to make this one work with both. I will have to look at the bug branch and see.

As predicted, Bugged Branch's extra ethics type (Pluralist vs Elitist) and extra corporate authorities do produce a lot of weird behavior. Most notably, the corporate authorities show the normal civics, as opposed to the megacorp civics, and Pluralist vs. Elitist appears to have fully subsumed Cooperative vs Competitive.

For reference, I am *about* to test it, and will note how it goes here.

There are some major differences in Bugged Branch over the others. Most notably, it adds 2 new authorities for megacorps and some of the big major civic tokens are different.

I haven't tested it, but I imagine the authorities at least might cause some problems.

Came here to check that, cheers for clarifying it should work @LittleRaskol

From the description: "It will likely work on any fork of these mods as well."

There are a whole lot of variants of the mods this is a patch for. I am not making a patch for each fork when they all probably use the same internal tokens for ethics and therefore should work with this. If you know for a fact it does not, that could be worth looking into. I simply do not have the time to test every fork so... try it and see!

Second that, a bug branch would be great :)

Will this work with "Ethics And Civics: Bug Branch" too?

Try making a civic that has a requirement like: Egalitarian OR Democratic. If you can do it, and show me how, I will get rid of the duplicates.

> If both are available to be picked at the same time, that's a bug. Otherwise, it's a workaround to limitations in the way civics are defined.
Why is this workaround necessary? I've worked on a few mods and never had to make a workaround like this

Thanks!

Yes

For load order, guessing this should load after GVP and Ethics & Civics Overhaul?

This has been updated for Stellaris 3.3 (Libra) and GVP v4.

If both are available to be picked at the same time, that's a bug. Otherwise, it's a workaround to limitations in the way civics are defined.

why is there two seperate republicanism?