Probably not, I haven't touched any of the mechanoids from biotech on.

What about the uh... newer mechanoids added in later expansions, do they have "reasonable" disassembly values?

When I get a chance I'll try to update my mods. Though this one will probably only need the version number updated.

Will there be a 1.5 update?

@kongkim The only thing the mod affects is the products they produce when disassembled and what is left behind when the hostile ship chunks are killed. Any mechs present in biotech but not in 1.4 without the mod won't be affected. However if those old mechs drop new items with biotech installed then this mod may overwrite that. I don't actually have biotech to check.

@Adara Firecaster So just to be sure, all the new things still drop from them also?

Thank you for update!

Updated to work with 1.4, does not change any new mech types added for Biotech

@PavelKer From what I can tell, yes, IF you load this mod earlier in the load order. This mod replaces the drops and What the Hack adds to it if I read that mod's code correctly. So if this mod loads later it will overwrite the change to the drops.

Hey, is this compatible with the new mechanoid drops in What the Hack?

@Thundercraft That's a good idea, I have added the values. Though I could have sworn they were lower immediately post nerf. The reason I made the mod in the first place was my annoyance at getting rid of a well guarded defoliator ship and not getting any advanced components for my trouble.

I usually hate nerfs like this. But I haven't played much since 1.0 or earlier. I'm rusty and I'm not sure I understand.

If I understand correctly: The (only) difference between the old values and patch 1.1.2618 was that rewards for the things listed removed all components and plasteel - meaning that the only reward now is just... steel?

May I suggest that the description also include the post-nerf rewards (new patch 1.1.2618 values)? Just a suggestion, but it would help emphasize the significance of what the mod does.

Game on. Thanks

1.3 Update is live, Added termite mechs to the drop list, the base game has them drop what a centipede does, so I kept that parity by giving it the older centipede drops.

+1 as well please

+1 for a 1.3 update!

Ok that would be cool :)

I am unlikely to buy the expansion, but I will probably make the mod compatible if I can.

The ideology expansion will be out on 20/07,and the game version is 1.3 will this mod be updated for that :)? As i will be starting a new game when ideology is out.

So far as I could tell it should still work with 1.2. The only mods that might be incompatible would be those that alter the base butchering (disassembly) drops for mechanoids.

Does this mod still work with 1.2? Also, any mod incompatibilities that are already known?

I just use mods that allow me to make my own plasteel from resources, some chemfuel, steel and something to make it, and then increase the drops in game scenario efficiency from mech shred.

Turning all the insect meat to chemfuel usually gives me WAY more then I need in general on average, so its not that hard. Just labor.

Thx

It doesn't make sense to nerf it for people who play without royalty because it means that mechanoids are not useful to salvage

Even with the DLC I don't get why this needed to be nerfed. If anything, limiting the spawns from a mechanoid assembler was already enough to remove the exploit. Instead mechanoids as a whole just became a resource drain. Compared to regular raiders which have generally really high rewards, especially if you are into the organ harvesting business and Infestations, which at least give you jelly and food for your prisoners.

TL;DR: Thanks for this!

nice

Updated

update*

yeah the 1.1 harmony separation was made so that mods wouldn't break as much. All adara has to do is upsate the version number

mod still works. I just tested it and took apart a centipede and got 50 steel, 10 plasteel, and 2 Component

alright thank you so much, don´t rush yourself and take your time, I appreciate it

Yes, I'll get an update out soon, Hopefully all I have to do is up the version number, but I'll check.

hello adara firecaster, I hope you are having a great day, just wondering are there any plans on updating this mod?

I really dislike the nerf - why should we not be rewarded for killing Mechanoids?

Good job on the mod!

i think that particular patchlog was stating something about players farming mechanoids, and i thought : so? if youre able to do that, u deserve that plasteel since that stuff would be rlly damn rare otherwise.
that change also made no sense realism wise, for obvious reasons. risk/reward and all that stuff. i mean thanks for the mod, dude.

thanks you for quick answer (quick for me its no more than 1 day)

@Alapma Yes, it's all patch operations so it doesn't actually change files, if you remove the mod it simply stops overwriting the data when you load the game.

is this save friendly?, i dont want to ♥♥♥ up the mechanoid files

Thanks to all for the appreciative words. It makes mods seem worth doing.

Thanks for making this mod!

Honestly this change was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded. I'm glad someone had the brain power to make a mod like this.

you are a live saver!"!!

@Baal Firenze. Actually not. Since fighting the endless spam of mech clusters in 1.1 requires you to use uncountable amount of turrets and moratar shells (since mortar accuarity is random and not actually set by pawns being able to use it) you have to at least ust 75% of all you get to counteract the loss you make.

Tynan removing all the ♥♥♥♥ just made the game impossible late game without organ harvesting to pay for unlimited amount fo componments and steel

Also to people complaining, don't use the mod, also it will increase wealth and you'll just get more mechanoids to balance it out, like I get drop pods now which are terrible lol

This is exactly what I was looking for it was like not even worth fighting them now

I don't have the DLC, as it doesn't offer to tell me any stories I care to play through. And nerfing the base game to "fix" DLC content just didn't sit right with me.

Appreciate the revert. Seems like the mech cluster farming attempted a 'fix', but nerfed the reward for the danger of a ship drop as you mention. If the reward was too OP it should have been fixed
sometime after 1.0 went live, not later, to fix a poorly implemented DLC addition.

You're welcome, and as this is purely xml patching, if anyone decides they're drowning in plasteel and components they can always remove the mod with no problems later.

Thanks for this! Was really baffled, as I just got 10 steel for a Scyther....

If you like the nerf and feel it was needed don't use the mod. However, I feel that for my games it was not needed and too harsh, and the first time I took down a defoliator chunk and guardians after the nerf to get a pittance of steel and 1 single component for all that effort and danger, I felt cheated out of a proper prize.

I mean, there was a reason they were nerfed though.