I'll investigate and share my discoveries with you about this later.

Thanks!

@Arthur GC Are there any errors in your logs? Does the issue occur with only this mod and Harmony enabled (if not, it's possible that it's a mod compatibility issue)? Failing both of those, can you give a more detailed description of the issue (i.e. how to reproduce it)?

@Anon_Octo I was having the same issue and just tested without this mod, and it's gone.

So yeah, I think it's something with this mod.

@Anon_Octo Did you manage to confirm if the issue was with this mod?

Been redoing some templates - a baseline, then adding a major passion for most skills - and discovered that they all have the baseline name, instead of baseline - skill.

@Anon_Octo I've been told in the past that that's possibly an issue with a mod called "Cleaning Area" if you've got that installed? Otherwise I have no idea, does the issue occur when you have only PM and Harmony enabled? This mod doesn't touch the starting scenario so it shouldn't be possible for this to be the issue.

Am I tweaking or when I use this like half my starting recources just vanish

@AikiAimi This mod has more filter options and uses purely vanilla mechanics to generate pawns, whereas RandomPlus has only a few options and uses a customized generation function. I'm told that RandomPlus has a nicer user interface though, if that's something that's super important to you.

whats the different between this mod and RandomPlus?

Looks like those mods haven't been updated for 1.6, so that tracks. Lots of things can go wrong when you try to use a mod for a different game version than it was made for.

I figured out what mods were causing this mod to not work, 1-2-3 Personalities modules 1 & 2

@Lakuna I just tested with only Harmony, HugsLib and this mod, no errors and it works, so it’s a conflict on my end. I just need to figure out what it’s conflicting with.

I’ll check when I have the time

@PringlesMachoMan Does the issue still occur when only this mod and Harmony are enabled?

Yeah there were errors, but I couldn’t make heads or tails of it or even tell if the errors were from this mod or not. The only errors I could recognize were coming from Vanilla Expanded.

@PringlesMachoMan Are there any errors in the log or anything? I don't have a Steam Deck so I don't think I can help very much, unfortunately.

Oddly enough, the same problem happened with prepare carefully. Maybe the steam deck just doesn't like buttons being in that position.

@Lakuna Yeah, the button in the second screenshot of this mod page just doesn't appear

@PringlesMachoMan How so? Like the button just doesn't show up?

I don't know if i'm doing something wrong, but this doesn't seem to work on the Steam Deck

@A Duck The filter part you requested has been implemented.

Big thanks to Lakuna for this massively time-saving mod! I like how it's implemented as a quality-of-life feature rather than simply cheating, which makes it feel "fair" and preserves an element of surprise during pawn rolls :)

NOTE REGARDING INCREASED RAM USAGE AS PAWNS ARE ROLLED:

The author has noted that this issue is part of the vanilla game. In other words, if you didn't have this mod and instead just clicked "randomize" thousands of times, it would still eat up your RAM. (Generating lots of new map seeds seems to do the same thing.) You can get your RAM back with a game restart.

Be advised that starting (and saving) the game can take much longer than usual if your RAM is used up. I recommend pulling up task manager, making sure it's set to display over all other windows, and leaving it off to the side. Once the RAM usage reaches about 80-90%, either start your game and save (if you like your pawns) or restart the game and try again. Otherwise, you might crash.

@Gravenwitch I've looked into it before, it'd be a lot of work to implement but it's definitely floating around in the idea book.

Fantastic mod! Is there any chance you'd add the option to reroll pawns by conditions elsewhere on the roster? For example roll a pawn for at least 4 construction unless another pawn has at least 4 construction and so on for essential skills.

@Ripzol The RAM usage when rolling pawns is a vanilla issue that people just never encounter since they can't usually roll as much as they can with this mod. That being the case, I'd suggest just restarting the game once at the beginning if it ends up taking you that long to find your starting pawns.

is reminded of Keanu Reeves doubling his ram in the movie adaption of Johnny Menmonic

Love the mod. But now when rolling it eats up my ram. First char will increase ram use to about 25 gb, by the time second char has hit, it’s at 55gb. Third char will slowly churn thru at 62-63gb. (I have 64.) Try rolling chars 4-8 and it takes lots more hours now and it either stalls out and goes not responding or game shuts down.

Good mod, I don't want to start the game with human-sized sacks of garbage but it's boring if they're inappropriately strong so this is a good way to split the difference.

I would like to rescind my comment, the issue was the original VFE framework was breaking my starting scenarios, something about that didn't play nice with prepare moderately, but it's a moot point overall because the game is unplayable when that happens anyway. Once I stopped running that your mod worked perfectly

@Voltaire Does the issue happen when you don't have any other mods installed? Are there any errors in the log?

Absolutely love this mod though have been running into an issue with the new DLC. Inconsistently when I'm rolling new characters it will roll 4 characters and then the game will just stop. If I close the window the character select screen completely disapears.

If I go to the ideology screen and try to click back into the character selection it simply doesn't work. Hope this report helps

I can put it in the backlog for the next update.

Could we get a filter for minimum number or maximum number of traits? Preferably a slider so we can set the minimum to 3 or maximum to 1 or something? I love this mod, thanks for making it! :)

Thank you for the update!

@Zorg Not at the moment, sorry.

Is there a way to use this after the world starts?
Character editor's randomization creates wacky pawns, whereas this mod makes realistic pawns using the games existing pawn generation code.

Found the culprit it was pawn editor, i uninstalled it and boom problem gone

@Immortan Joe A good way to tell would be to play the game with only my mod active. If the issue still happens, it's my mod. Otherwise, it's not. I'm not having a similar issue and nobody else has reported it so if I had to guess it's probably another mod.

so i don't know if it is the mod or something else but whenever i start with crash landed the gear do not appear, i do not think it is the mod cause it happen before without it so anyone know why ? Otherwise great mod

Awesome thanks for updating so quickly! If you have time it'd be nice to be able to duplicate elements, but as you're using the built in menu system UI not sure if that's possible. I'm trying to roll with certain passions, so currently using "Add part" -> "Logic gate", "And" -> "Not", "Add part" -> "Has passion", select appropriate passion. Duplicating the logic element with a nested "Has passion" would make it a bit quicker while keeping your goal of compatibility with other mods etc. But thank you very much for your time! And cool you're open source!

OMFG THANK YOU SO MUCH ;-;

The mod has been updated for RimWorld version 1.6! Also, thank you everyone for 100,000 unique visitors!

@StendhalKnight The feature you requested has been implemented along with a few other goodies.

@Tryclyde I am updating the mod for 1.6 right now.

Lakuna [author] 25 Jul, 2024 @ 3:29am
@Tryclyde I added the filter that you requested :)

Almost a year ago and I completely missed this, sorry and thanks :)
I hope you'll update for 1.6 if needed. I'm definitely using your mod when the new dlc is released.
Cheers

I am REALLY looking forward to it then, your mod seems like just what I've wanted for a while but couldn't find anywhere. The only other alternatives are RandomPlus and Prepare Procedurally, none of which do what I need (afaik)

@GreyKnight40k I'll make a note and put it in the next update, I don't really know why I designed it the way I did in the first place

Update: Forget the passion part, just read the discussion about it. It is solved on that part, and it seems like it could work for levels as well but that involves having like 10 parameters in the logic gate if I want to set the range to look for a 10-level range. Not ideal.

Can i set the "has skill" parameter as a range instead of a specific level? Idk if i can't see the option or the option is not there but i want the mod to look for a pawn with a skill set from X to Y level instead of a pawn having THAT specific level. Such as 10-15 shooting or 5-12 construction. Same for passions if possible

@Zenzi Aurora Very strange, thank you for the additional information.

So.... I've got a follow up to A big Ogre... So I'm not sure why or how... but I had a similar issue to them. where starting items wouldn't appear on starting a colony. It appears to be caused by using old saved custom filters for pawn selection.. Replacing it with a new identical filter I appear to no longer have the issue. Not a full bug report... but maybe this info could help someone else.