Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

Bloodline of Jesus
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Spaceracer 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 7:50 
I didn't expect to see catholic exceptionalism from a scott pilgrim pfp
Imperator of Rome 2022 年 7 月 4 日 下午 3:16 
Jesus wasn't known to father any children. Would it not be more historically accurate to make this the Bloodline of James? One of Jesus' brothers? Or perhaps Jude? One of his other brothers? He was also known to be the great grandfather of Judah Kyriakos, the last Jewish Bishop of Jerusalem.
[+DG+] Sir_Castic 2022 年 1 月 29 日 下午 11:31 
@bruce wayne
because non-catholics aren't really christians
god of being bad at everything 2021 年 6 月 18 日 下午 11:40 
haselrig why is that a problem a picture of the prophet is fine honestly you should be able to insult anyone if a person went out to the streets with a painting of jesus and burnt it most christians should be quite fine with it unless they dont understand their own theology
truelove101992 2020 年 10 月 7 日 上午 10:21 
Could you add an option to give player charecters the blood of jesus?
Karaoglan43 2020 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:42 
Timur can you upload prophet muhammad bloodline to a link or can u share it on workshop?
Bruce Wayne 2020 年 8 月 8 日 下午 1:37 
Shouldn't all christians have an opinion of +100, why just Catholics?
Haselrig 2020 年 5 月 18 日 下午 7:30 
It's a well done mod. I often forget it's a mod it feels so natural. It does have a picture of Muhammad. I can see that being a problem.
CrusadeExterminator 2020 年 5 月 18 日 上午 9:25 
I still have the Bloodline of Muhammad mod even though I am a Muslim, it isnt offensive at all its just a bloodline.
Ar Pharazon 2020 年 5 月 3 日 上午 4:41 
I guess a bloodline of jesus is as offensive as a bloodline of muhammad.

However I guess those you like are welcome to do so, I am one of them and I think it gives some nice features to my characters
Haselrig 2020 年 4 月 16 日 下午 9:04 
Maybe they took it down? Links all fail.

Here's the description: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/9y6unk/blood_of_the_prophet_a_bloodline_mod/

kingcoap 2020 年 4 月 16 日 下午 12:21 
How is it activated or who has this bloodline? because i can't find it
Haselrig 2020 年 4 月 4 日 上午 6:46 
There's a good mod called Blood of the Prophet that I like quite a bit.
Koharu 2020 年 4 月 4 日 上午 6:09 
The reason there is not picture of Muhammad is because diplaying the face of the prophet is haram.
Karaoglan43 2020 年 3 月 25 日 上午 3:08 
Could you please do same for Muslim's prophet Muhammad. Same power +100 opinion for muslim's and maybe +5 strike
Whitewatt  [作者] 2020 年 3 月 23 日 上午 11:51 
Sorry about not having updated the mod yet :( since I last worked on it my computer broke and I was unable to do anything for about a month or so. I do have the updated files but I need to review them properly bc IDR what I did and when I have time, although job has been leaving me with very little of it :( I will review the updates, test it and update the mod as soon as I can, can't give a date yet though
Karaoglan43 2020 年 3 月 23 日 上午 2:19 
Mod still working fine/ There is no error on it
Misha 2020 年 3 月 14 日 上午 5:30 
Am i missing something here? Jesus didn't have any kids, You can't have the bloodline of someone who never had kids.
ᚹᛀᚱᛟᛗᛖᚤᚻᚺᛪ 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 8:54 
i didn't get bloodline
lüst 2020 年 2 月 17 日 下午 12:25 
Does the mod still work?
truelove101992 2020 年 1 月 8 日 下午 9:08 
Weird request, but could people with this bloodline who become empire tiered get the option for a special title of God-Emperor/Godess-Empress (since most major sects of Christianity tend to see Jesus as both god’s son and god himself in the flesh), possibly adjusted for culture/language, and maybe a special trait with it or something? Would be kind of fun for role playing purposes lol
ДИКИЙ 2020 年 1 月 7 日 下午 8:37 
but Jesus not jewish, His mother has been gallian, father - God
Blazefox 2019 年 12 月 26 日 上午 1:31 
jews hate Jesus, have you read the talmud? i dont think a +50 modifier its accurate
Name-Giver 2019 年 12 月 18 日 下午 9:01 
Hello, the mod does not seem to be working for me, my character receives no bloodline on startup
Haselrig 2019 年 11 月 26 日 上午 8:15 
@WasaSloth, if my experience is typical (I use a lot of mods, so it may not be), you'll end up with it eventually if you're Catholic and zealous.
Myers 2019 年 11 月 23 日 下午 10:18 
Is there a console command to force the bloodline on my character?
Haselrig 2019 年 11 月 9 日 上午 10:36 
Subscribed and played this mod in my current game. I play with a lot of mods running, so it's hard to say for sure if every aspect worked as intended. I'm enjoying it, though.

Couple of things. In my game, the bloodline seems to have proliferated at an alarming rate. It went from one holder to 85 in three generations. Don't know exactly how it spreads as most of the holders don't seem to have the zealous trait. Limiting it to one group to start (like the Cathars mentioned by a previous poster) might be a better model as it seems to be everywhere at this point in my game and it's not even 1000 AD yet.

The second thing is a suggestion. Would it be possible to add an effect? Something like adding the ability to heal (or remove if that's easier to code) one wound per year seems like it would make the bloodline more interesting. Anyway, thanks for working on this.
Rams 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 11:31 
Bloodline details:
founded on 03 April 33 [approximate date of crucifixion -could also be 07 April 30]
Monthly Piety: +3.00
Monthly Prestige: +1.00
Christian Opinion: +30
Muslim Opinion: +10
Jewish Opinion: -5
Church: -10 [debatable, but your presence kinda undermines the church, plus Jesus was more or less against established clergy hierarchy]

@whitewatt if you give me a few guidelines on how to do it, I can make this changes based on your github post
Rams 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 11:31 
Conditions:
Either
( ) Religion: Christian group
( ) Lifestyle trait: Mystic, Scholar, or Theologian
( ) Lunatic or zealous
( ) Piety 7500 or more
( ) Prestige 5000 or more
or
( ) Religion: Jewish group
( ) Lifestyle trait: Mystic, Scholar, or Theologian
( ) Lunatic or Possessed
( ) Piety 7500 or more
( ) Prestige 5000 or more
or
( ) Religion: Muslim group [Jesus is a Prophet in the Muslim tradition]
( ) Lifestyle trait: Mystic, Faqih, or Theologian
( ) Lunatic or Possessed
( ) Piety 7500 or more
( ) Prestige 5000 or more
Rams 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 11:31 
I really like the idea of this mod and have already subscribed. However I believe there might be some improvements.

I agree with most of what @bobomaximus says, specially the negative opinion from Jewish clergy. Moreover, when Jews nowadays visit Jerusalem, they kinda disdain the holy places of Christendom.

Some points that I may add:

- Either the Pope would surely have an opinion malus since you are usurping his authority, or he'd become your vassal as a decision when you're a king or emperor.
- Also, if such OP opinion modifiers wanna remain, maybe you could make it a event available similar to claiming Alexander's bloodline with different sets of conditions for it to fire:
ayeitsad 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 5:24 
is there anyway this can be added to shattered world games?
BoboMaximus 2019 年 11 月 3 日 下午 9:24 
1. He would have been from the House of David.
2. His Religion would have still been Jewish
3. His culture would have been Israelite
4. Would only affect Cathar Heresy (and Late Templars). They Believed that Jesus and Mary of Magdalene had children (Why The Templers were a hersey in the Catholic Church for 700 years)
5. He would have a - stat with Jewish Leaders and Rabbis
Connor 2019 年 11 月 1 日 下午 10:03 
Just an idea, but it would be cool if you could expand this to other religions, like for example Abu Bakr for Sunnis, Zarathustra for Zoroastrians, etc. Also, sorry to hear about your nan, hope y'all are doing alright.
Quis Machina 2019 年 11 月 1 日 下午 8:11 
Also i may be really wrong but would Jews get an opinion boost at all? Since most of the Jews just saw Jesus as a guy? Also for consideration i think that the Catholic head should get a malus to opinion since he would see it as a bit of a blasphemus thing to presume? Also with the idea of Jesus having no kids, the way i would see individuals saying the "Have the blood of christ" for my head cannon at least i imagine the decision saying something like "No vices, at least 5 of the virtues, and 10k piety" and you are trying say they are trying to say they walk the path of Jesus and are somehow related or kin to him. Almost like forging a bloodline to him.
Axis1211 2019 年 11 月 1 日 下午 4:36 
But Jesus had no Kids like no mention at all in the Bible or Roman Sources.
Namestnik 2019 年 11 月 1 日 上午 9:24 
Why catholic only, but not all Cristian religious group?
CelticPagan 2019 年 11 月 1 日 上午 5:53 
@Whitewatt, none recorded by history, though many claimed it. Supposedly, on his way to England with the Grail, Yosef of Aramathia dropped off Mary Maggdaline in the Frankish lands, and her children, by Jesus, founded the line. He then went on to Wales and buried the grail and planted his staff above it, which sprang into a huge Oak tree. The Merovingians used this as their "Divine" right to rule, but never amounted to a large house. But hey, this is a game, so do as you wish :)
Star¤Dagger 2019 年 10 月 31 日 上午 11:38 
Jesus' bloodline is basically what made the Royals of Europe "Royal"
Whitewatt  [作者] 2019 年 10 月 31 日 上午 8:49 
I'll update either tonight or tomorrow. Sorry for taking so long, my nan just passed and localisation is so annoying to write. Ugh!
Whitewatt  [作者] 2019 年 10 月 31 日 上午 8:45 
@truelove101992 It only fires based on the triggers and you're not required to be in that dynasty.
No worry though, since I'm working on making claim events rather than the original method.

@Tabby Yes, I'm making it affect the whole christian religion group.

@Quis Machina I agree tbh, I've lowered them for the next update.

@CelticPagan Do they have any bastard dynasty cadet branches? I could give those the dynasty.

@Richard de Bonn CK2 already has those as well as sins.

@Juke By default in CK2, jewish_group has the localisation "Israelite". I'll be removing it. And I just looked into the great warriors thing. I like the idea so I'll make it happen.
Valarian of Naples 2019 年 10 月 30 日 下午 7:22 
Looks like blasphemy, smells like blasphemy, tastes like blashpemy... Yup, it's blasphemy.
Juke™ 2019 年 10 月 30 日 下午 5:34 
Wasnt the israelite jewish deal that they DIDNT believe jesus was the messiah? also why catholic only? (and why great warriors, wouldnt great scolars be better?)
☩ RdB ☩ 2019 年 10 月 30 日 上午 2:27 
you should have added all 7 great virtues
CelticPagan 2019 年 10 月 29 日 下午 4:18 
Not sure this belongs, as it was the Frankish Merovingian dynasty that claimed descendency from Jesus, but they died out by 751 CE.
Human72 2019 年 10 月 27 日 下午 9:36 
i like this deus vult owo
Quis Machina 2019 年 10 月 27 日 下午 4:13 
The only issue i see is the opinion modifier is a "bit" strong having a bloodline give a +100 modifier is reeeeeally strong id say at most +20 - +30 i can see the reasoning for a +100 modifier if your related to Jesus but just from the game perspective youd never really deal with rebellions with the current amount.
BlackCat 2019 年 10 月 27 日 上午 10:57 
Is it possible to make this affect Orthodox as well?
truelove101992 2019 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:11 
Also, could you perhaps make it so it doesn't need your dynasty to be "of nazereth" (idk if it actually does that, but it seems to imply that.
truelove101992 2019 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:02 
the event won't actually fire, even with console cammands
zlatky 2019 年 10 月 26 日 下午 1:00 
Keep us posted, when you update it then. Until then, can't #sub-soz!