ATOM RPG
Always catch goldfish.
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SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2024 年 5 月 2 日 上午 11:10 
Np, glad you got it sorted! Yeah the modding in this one is a bit archaic to what's the norm, lol.
Thulium 2024 年 5 月 2 日 上午 6:04 
Dear SKN The LISPer, thank you for the clarification. It was my mistake and I am sorry for that, I´ve installed it correctly however I didn´t activated it in game (mod section on the main menu). I got it. :D
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2024 年 5 月 1 日 下午 8:38 
With this mod, (which affects layer 3, and layer 3 only). If you have 11 luck*, or used the wierd doll, no die will be rolled, and instead, you will have 100% chance of the golden fish (once only, obviously).


So in essence, this mod makes the golden fish go from 0.3% chance of happening, to 30%**.


[*] - at the time this check happens, NOT when you start fishing. Time progress fast when you fish making luck boosts unreliable, ods are you'll have < 11 luck when layer 3 hits and so the standard 1% chance to get the golden fish instead of other fish


[**] - Assuming that the chance is 30%, would have to see actual source to be certain the exact chances.
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2024 年 5 月 1 日 下午 8:38 
Mod works. Either you didn't activate it properly (need to restart after activating), you have a mod conflict, or (more likely) you missunderstood how the mod works.


This is how fishing works (in Atom, with or without this mod):
Layer 1:
Do you catch something? - rolls a die, if not high enough result, repeat. If high enough result, go to layer 2.

Layer 2:
Roll a die: Did you catch a fish? If yes, goes to layer 3, if not. Returns trast\nothing

Layer 3:
Roll a 100 sided die. If the result is 100. You catch the golden fish. If the die is any other number (1 - 99), you catch any other fish.


Chance to catch a fish (as in, getting to layer 3) is somewhere around 30% iirc. So the chance of getting a golden fish, is 0.3%.
Thulium 2024 年 5 月 1 日 下午 7:05 
It did not work for me. I tried 11 Luck and the Weird Doll. :(
Kittah has Claws 2024 年 1 月 1 日 上午 10:39 
Just tried this today and it works great, thank you
jschaffr 2023 年 2 月 4 日 下午 10:44 
2023 review "this works you dingbats"
Serryx Dergus 2022 年 1 月 13 日 上午 12:42 
Oh yeah; I forgot to say that it is amazing that the creator made this mod before the devs made a patch to make catching the golden fish possible and I stress again thank you very dearly.

I am just commenting on the changes they made to say that it is very possible on a modless save now for people who don't want to fudge around with their saves to get a Golden Fish buffed character to Trudograd via character importing
Serryx Dergus 2022 年 1 月 13 日 上午 12:38 
So I just made a character and double checked for a while and it seems the odds with Weird Doll and 11 Luck in the base game of your catch being a Goldfish are now around 80%

I have not tested this with spider brains (which everyone says seems to have higher odds so maybe those are 100% in the base game now), but the Golden Fish is actually reasonable now

The test was just doing catches and 20 of 25 catches were the Golden Fish; I was just lucky before checking and recording the time before or I misremembered
Serryx Dergus 2022 年 1 月 13 日 上午 12:13 
I don't know when they made that change though cause it doesn't seem anyone has talked about it and it was not that way at launch, but I have verified this many times and out of 30 catches with 11 luck and weird doll without the mod (all on a base luck 2 character who started with 1 luck and got it increased by offering meat to the idol in the forest to 2 and then drank himself into a coma to reach 11)

I only figured out the change was made by playing the game without mods to ensure I could carry my save to Trudograd (which is why I still have not played this game with mods) and cause I wanted all of the permanent buffs the game had to offer in a legitimate run for a Trudograd import
Serryx Dergus 2022 年 1 月 13 日 上午 12:09 
If you buff your luck to 11 using alcohol and use the weird doll getting the gold fish if you catch a fish while fishing is now almost 100% in the base game (like 99%). I have verified this multiple times. This mod still makes it 100% when only using the weird doll but it is no longer needed for making the goldfish reasonable to catch (the odds are still abysmal if you don't buff to 11 luck though)
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2021 年 12 月 29 日 下午 7:05 
I have no idea, wasn't paying much attention to the actual math(considering it's unecessary when you make a hard-check if Int is higher than 10).
Trogdor 2021 年 12 月 29 日 上午 1:24 
Hi, I know this mod is old and you've probably forgotten by now, but since this information doesn't seem to be anywhere else on the internet, what is the "random chance based on luck" for lower values of luck?
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2021 年 10 月 5 日 上午 2:10 
Cont2: Obviously, I'm not going to rewrite the entire fishing system, and it's a minor bug that you can work through, by using the wierdDoll(which was the original intent of the mod, the luck was just thrown in for good measure) and retry until you get the Gold Fish. With this mod, you'll have a succes rate of essentially 70% to catch the GoldFish, depending on what part of the chain the Random UnityScriptAsset chain decides to throw you down on.

The difference with my mod, vs vanilla is therefore: You have a 70% chance of always catching the Gold Fish, vs Vanilla, where you have a 30% chance of NEVER GETTING THE CHECK IN THE FIRST PLACE, ontop of a < 10% chance to catch the Gold Fish(when you 'do' get the check, those 70% of the time).
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2021 年 10 月 5 日 上午 2:06 
Cont: The issue lies in how the Fishing System is implemented. It's not coded through C#\Code, but through the Unity script Asset. So the entire fishing system is basically a huge chain of if statements(with goto statements) all over the place. A lot of these goto statements ommits, or otherwise skip the Gold Fish check.

I fixed some of it, but mostly I just edited the gold fish check, and not all the other issues with the fishing system as a whole(It's very clearly a quick and tacked on feature, and not something they put effort into). It's very likely that x-amount of whistles, or pulling of string, or waiting(or any combination of these) is causing you to completely ommit the Gold Fish check. Nothing I can do outside of essentially rewriting the fishing system from scratch.
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2021 年 10 月 5 日 上午 2:04 
Ok, so I made a new character, 10 luck.

WeirdDoll(no boost of luck, infact the opposite, using alcohol to reduce it to 8 luck):
10\10 Tests. Caught the Gold Fish.


10+1 Luck(boost): Caught the GoldFish 3\5 times.
11 Luck(natural): 7\10 times caught the Gold Fish.

So something is fudgy with the luck check. Conclusion: Use the weirdDoll or keep trying(more than 10min with natural 11 luck is pure unlucky with getting a fish caught in the first place). Same issue 'might' be the case for the WeirdDoll, eitherway success rate with the mod is at the very least, 75% chance(vs < 10% chance in vanilla).
Chaos Crew 2021 年 10 月 4 日 下午 2:41 
ive sat here for around 10 minutes and im only catching humpbacks the mod is active and ive rebooted the game multiple times
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2021 年 10 月 4 日 上午 4:23 
Dude, I'm playing the game right now, with my own mod. It is without a shadow of a doubt working(my dude had 0 luck, and caught it immediatly, each time). You either haven't activated the mod(you need to activate it in 'mods', then restart the game), or you didn't understand what this mod does and how it works(it gurantees the gold fish 'if' you catch a fish, if you don't catch a fish, then it make no difference.

Boost also dwindles as time goes on, so if you boosted luck through alcohol(or other temporary means), by the time you caught a fish, one of the boosts probably disappeared(as it lasts for either 30 or 60 min, and most fishing can last multiple hours).
Chaos Crew 2021 年 10 月 4 日 上午 3:50 
i dont think this mod is working, im only using this mod and im catching everything but the golden fish
AlexMartSpb 2021 年 8 月 20 日 下午 3:33 
Мод работает! Поймал на куколку за 1 минуту реального времени с удачей 7!
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2021 年 6 月 29 日 下午 2:58 
Nope, mod still works(I just tested it), you're either 1: Doing something wrong, 2: Have a mod that conflicts, or 3: Misunderstood what the mod does.

I'm assuming it's 3. This mod isn't a big change to the fishing system, it only alters the check for the goldfish. So if through the vanilla game, the gold-fish wouldn't be caught, it wont' be caught(irregardless of what you're doing or using).

Basically it works like this(11 luck 'or' weird doll):

Did you catch something? No. > select options(quiet, whistle, etc).

Did you catch something? No. >

Did you catch something? yes

Is the thing you caught a fish? No. > No goldfish check, you didn't catch a fish, fishing ends.

- Same as above except you 'did' catch a fish -

Do you have 11 luck, 'or' used the weird doll as bait? - Gold fish is caught.
Otherwise - randomChance for goldfish. If randomchance for goldfish is 'not' right to catch it, you catch a normal fish.

SNUBBIRTH13 2021 年 6 月 27 日 下午 6:30 
Its not working, i even revalidated it several times and boosted my luck to 11 and used the doll.
Morphinof 2021 年 1 月 29 日 上午 5:34 
Thanks a lot for this ! :sfvperfect:
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2020 年 3 月 13 日 上午 6:27 
Yeah, sadly the fishing code is quite a mess, so there might be some checks I missed(a lot of redoing the exact same code in a slight different section etc, rather than just make a function you call each time, just a mess all around), and definitely suggest using the weird doll.

With all that said, the check for the gold fish only happens if you catch a fish, not catching a fish doesn't matter to this mod. If you're getting another fish while fishing with a weird doll, then yeah this mod doesn't work and something is wrong.

Luck is an extremely unreliable way of getting the gold fish, a huge part to it running out before you ever catch the fish.


If you whistle, keep silent etc, determine what check and where you'll do, so there is a possibility that you need to do something else than what you're doing(as again, I might've missed a check somewhere, and these options are what determine which of the many checks actually get used).
Ramon(f_finder) 2020 年 3 月 12 日 下午 11:47 
I wasn't using any mod at the moment, and yes. now I am using the Phenomenon mod, it works alright.
I'm gonna skip this shitty fishing thing tho. so much RNG with so much waste of time.
thanks for the help anyways. at least looks like this worked for some other dudes.:cozyvalkyr:
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2020 年 3 月 12 日 下午 2:28 
Using other mods? If so, it might be incompatible(anything that touches the fishing system is incompatible).


If not using any other mods, does other mods work? One thing worth noting is you need to start the game, go into the mods menu, turn on the mod, restart the game(yes, shut down, and then start it up again) and then the mod will be running.
Ramon(f_finder) 2020 年 3 月 12 日 上午 10:35 
this is not working
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2020 年 2 月 27 日 上午 6:28 
Agnirush Thank you! I am very glad you're enjoying it!
Юпитер 2020 年 2 月 27 日 上午 5:04 
Имея 4 Удача, с помощью куколки со второй попытки попалась золотая рыбка.
SKN The LISPer, спасибо за такой полезный мод!
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2019 年 10 月 3 日 上午 10:38 
Then I have no idea, lol. Very unlikely the patch broke something, more likely there is an alternative check for what fish is being caught that I didn't see\catch to make an exception of. The fish code is very annoying to go through, doing weird and seemingly unecessary checks.


For instance, the weird doll can only catch the golden fish and the start of fishing, if you don't immediatly catch a fish, the gold-fish check is completely removed from the weird doll. This shouldn't be the case when using insect parts as bait, but as I said, maybe there is one I didn't notice and so dependant on what you choose(whistle etc) a the gold-fish check is ignored.

Eitherway, easy way to gurantee to always catch the gold fish is weird doll, as I edited that portion of the code to ensure gold fish checking is always done with a weird doll.
Waladil 2019 年 10 月 3 日 上午 10:32 
Not in that catch. There were plenty that timed out the alcohol, I know that's a thing. I took a screenshot, shows my luck level and the trout I caught in the log:
https://imgur.com/z6NnBAL
I did reload and try it a third time and got the golden fish again, so I'm 2 for 3.
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2019 年 10 月 3 日 上午 10:27 
Did it take a lot of time before you caught the fish? You need to catch a fish while having 11 luck, not start fishing at 11 luck. So lets say you drink a lot until 11 luck, and then fish for 5 hours(never actually catching anything), by the time you actually catch something your luck bonuses have now worn off and you no longer have 11 luck, thereby you don't catch the golden fish(or the chance of catching it is the same as always).

This mod doesn't change how catching the golden fish work etc, it only ensures when golden fish calculation happen(i.e; when a fish is actually getting caught) it'll gurantee a catch when having 11 luck(at that exact time), or using the weird doll(weird doll gurantees you'll catch the golden fish instead of any other fish).
Waladil 2019 年 10 月 3 日 上午 8:27 
Caught it after trying a second time (well, succeeding under the proper conditions a second time. There were maybe 5-6 failures in between) and got golden. Hmm.
Waladil 2019 年 10 月 3 日 上午 8:25 
Does this still work for the current version? I'm trying it but caught a three-eyed trout. 11 Luck with 3 alcohols, still drunk after the catch, spider brain bait.
halfamazin 2019 年 7 月 26 日 下午 5:55 
best mod ever. cheers :Uranium:
Leigh 2019 年 7 月 21 日 上午 8:30 
Worked a charm, thanks!
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2019 年 7 月 5 日 上午 11:10 
Haha yeah, exactly! You know everyone will plan\make a build based on any and all stat boosting that exist, so why they decided to have it be for a low-chance is beyond me... Just a time waster indeed!

Or, at least let you have a guranteed chance with max luck, or bait that gurantees catching it(Like the weirddoll)! It's a single player game, not an online game after all!
solosochi 2019 年 7 月 5 日 上午 10:41 
PS. Трижды.. первый раз прокликал не в ту характеристику, которую хотел. Второй раз вложил поинт в силу но у меня было уже 10 силы и поинт улетел в никуда. Так, что ловил трижды. :)
solosochi 2019 年 7 月 5 日 上午 10:39 
В первый раз, когда я поймал эту рыбу случайно прокликал диалог и получил не ту характеристику. В результате пришлось ловить рыбу дважды. Во второй раз вышло на много дольше. Вообще не вижу смысла в такой огромной растрате времени. Авторам нужно было добавить отлов этой рыбы с первой попытки в случае если на экаунте уже было достижение по её поимке. Для всех новых персонажей.
solosochi 2019 年 7 月 5 日 上午 10:35 
Спасибо единственное, что останавливало меня от повторного прохождения этой игры. Это необходимость ещё раз 4 часа ловить эту чёртову рыбу :)
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2019 年 7 月 4 日 下午 2:25 
You're welcome :). Since the chance is low(without this mod) it's not uncommon having to fish for a few hours(real life!), and so obviously do it with save\load with boosted 11 luck(through items and alcohol).

So effectivly, this mod removes the random element of the golden fish to avoid having to waste 2 hours of our lives to get it. That's why I made it(and decided to share it while I was at it), I'd rather play the game for 2 hours doing quests, than fishing, lol.
RokDooM 2019 年 7 月 4 日 下午 2:22 
Thanks for the answer. I have never tried to fish in the game.
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2019 年 7 月 4 日 下午 2:20 
RokDooM: It's the same as in the normal game. This mod just make sure you catch it with the weird doll(almost impossible in normal game, as for some reason the goldenfish check is only done the first dice roll, all other dice roll skips it), or with 11 luck.

As for what the golden fish does in normal game, it lets you increase one stat for free(like Strength, Personality, Endurance).
RokDooM 2019 年 7 月 4 日 上午 5:27 
А что дает ловля золотой рыбки?
SKN The LISPer  [作者] 2019 年 7 月 3 日 下午 1:52 
Thanks for your kind words AltayDron :).
AltayDron 2019 年 7 月 2 日 上午 1:55 
Действительно полезный мод, сохраняет нервы