@Pico Same, and likewise I appreciate you safeguarding the community

@Lucius That sounds like a good idea. I appreciate when people take time to respect others' assets.

@Pico oh I completely agree, the mod I'm working on will remain unpublished until I get aproval or until I remove used assets. Again I have no intention of stealing.

@Lucius Well, I would recommend to wait to see if you get permission. If the author doesn't respond, I would not recommend stealing the files, even with credit.

@Pico I technically could but it would cause issues later on. It's easier to remake the entire mod from scratch within my own framework. That said I'm not a fan of theft so ideally I can get permission.

Lucius, why are you not able to use these as a dependency? That would be the simpler option.

Great mod! I hope you don't mind but I used the southern queen in a mod of my own. I linked credit, and I will remove it if you message me.

The queen models need to be updated with Mogwai

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3442168024

good mod...but..where find fog queen

really nice work on the recolour

Hello there, may I incorporate this mod into my own? Will credit and link

I created a mass error-free patch/dummy mod between several Hiver mods which adds Praetorians and Queens to Hiver clades that did not previously have them (either through the original mod or a patch). Southern Hive Queen and Fog Queen is a main dependency along with Cute Hive, Mogwai Hive Overhaul, General Modifications, & Hives Expanded.
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3242585435

I noticed something unfortunate about the racial dialogue, but it's nothing game-breaking. Whenever dialogue in Kenshi checks for a race, it will actually include the entire group of whatever race you specified.
What this means for the mod is that the hive shopkeep's "QUEENIE!" dialogue will trigger for ANY southern hiver or deadhive, even if they aren't the queen.

Added support for a lot of animations:

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3066628535

And modified pathfinding:

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3186856217

three hives, three distinct colours, like ants.

i don't see why there needs to be a fuss about it tbh.

I do get the fog/dead queen being not loreful but what about the southern queen their insects. That like saying a army ant queen is leader of all other ant hive it makes no sense.

Also looks like these queens can't eat foul raw meat like the other hivers can.

I've noticed that NPC's keep calling my Fog Queen "He" and "Brother". Any chance you could fix it so the queens are properly referred too as female?

Hi! I am the developer of the Second Life of Kenshi mod pack, can I take your mod? I'll put you in the credits.

@Dysturbedfan Hive queens reproduce asexually via parthenogenesis as per the devs they're all clones essentially, stickbugs do that in nature and don't have defects IIRC. Pretty sure hivers were based on stickbugs

i read somewhere ( warning speculation and fan therory coming, but it makes sense) that hivers dont reproduce sexualy, the queens have to consume food to, which is why the western hivers are yellow and docile (farmers), and southern are redish and hostile. Fogmen loosing their quenn made them all quite crazy being severed all at once from the quenn, plus the parasite. Then the princes stepped up, since why you only see princes and pratorians eating and not the regular frogmen. But after decades of that it started producing defects that made the fogmen even more crazy.

Yeah, Pearl Hive queen would be so nice ^^ Cause those poor fellas have their queen "Western" style default...

I'm with Lucid Dreamer on this one, id love to be able to play as the Dark Hivers Queen...

I know they're not your mods, but maybe we could get a pearl / Dark Hive queen some day? Use this mod a lot BTW! Thanks for creating it

Is this mod compatible with Hives Expanded?
If not, u should definitively make a port!

what would be cool, lore, easier? Queen can lay eggs to rise the hive

There is a problem with the texture of the metal container on Queen Deadhab's abdomen, causing the skin to be the same colorimetric problem.
Please check if there is a problem and upload it again.

Hello !!! Tnx for the mod, can you add more dialogs when the another hive talk to queen or help teel how i can do it, dont andustend what is to _ me , to target bla bla bla =) sory for bad english all undertend but speak not mine.

oh okey, thanks for the response, hopefully i'll find it and fix it.
you wouldnt happen to know spesificly where the queen and race file is in the fcs?

i assume i would need to import the save file inorder for it to take affect right?

You would have to modify the race window of the queen in FCS, vanilla her 'speed max skill' is 30 and her 'speed min skill' is 20, to put that into context a shek max speed at 100 athletcis is 110 with a min of 70 and a hive prince's skills top out at 140. I have no idea what unit of measure it is but changing the queen min to 70 and max to somewhere between 110 and 140 with put her more in balance. I left it as the vanilla speeds because I didn't want to change the southern hive queen and effect other mods.

so been doing a hive only game and got this mod for that purpose, my queen is the southern one, and i quickly noticed that her speed was locked at 6mph regardless of aletics.

i have spent quiet some time googling all over trying to figure out how to make her able to move faster whitout the max speed being locked.

i have tried other mods that claimed to have it resolved but none has worked, i am no modder nor do i have much experience in that field, yet i tried going through the files to figure it out at no avail.

anyone know how to fix it, perhaps where in the files i can resolve it?
as far as i can tell, it is only the southern queen that has this.

could we get a patch for clean queen mod like this one?

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911332101

Oh that's weird, I had no idea. I saw the "is robot" flag and just assumed it would get rid of the hunger. I'm so new to FCS so forgive me for all the noob questions/comments :0

I didn't even know there was a "hunger rate" stat on races, makes sense thought considering hivers and shek eat different amounts.

So changing the "is robot" and "hunger rate" would potentially eliminate the issue, but would be rather immersion breaking since she's clearly part organic and needs to eat?

It's difficult to keep a character alive early game when you can't see their hunger bar. The robotic setting removes the hunger bar so you're left with a character that is suffering from malnutrition but you have no idea unless you're heavily micromanaging. It becomes less of a problem late game but there's still the risk of accidentally starving a character to death surrounded by food.

Heya CamelSpyd3r, I just noticed while tinkering in FCS that your replacement Southern Hive Queen is not robotic like the original was. Was this intentional? I thought maybe you had done it on purpose for a lore reason but I didn't see anything in the description regarding the choice so I thought I'd ask.

Celebrity is just a catchy term for the series name lol. We only have freed slaves, all of which are named after community contributors to say thanks for their creations. Most of the people picked are YouTubers and all male other than Nurse/Daily Quest Grind. I take the liberty of adding who I want when my viewers don't supply me with names.

And your comment on one of Rhadamant's episodes cracked me up and I was already using your MKIII / MKIV mods so it seemed appropriate to say thanks by featuring you in the series :-)

Other ladies we've added during the series after freeing them have been HaTsUnE_NeKo and Niiya.

Welcome to the team I'll do my best to keep your character alive (Shidan may have died) and thanks again for the wonderful content!

Well, that's not the weirdest request I've ever heard but its definitely up there. I guess I wouldn't mind if you named a character after me, but I don't think of myself as any sort of celebrity.

In regards to animation compatibility patches... I actually don't know how to make them, I've heard they're not too difficult to make though. I really should learn with how popular they are. I've got several race mods that could make use of a patch.

Hey CamelSpyd3r! A couple things :-)

1. I recently found out from reading comments on Rhadamant's hive series that you are indeed a lady, and I have 3 unnamed women on my Celebrity Slaves series team who need Celebrity sponsors =) Would you mind if I name one after you to say thanks for being such an amazing community contributor?

2. Any chance of getting a compatibility patch for this mod + Military Craft? If you don't have the time I'm happy to make it and send the files your way when I can make the time myself.

You're amazing! And thanks again for all the lovely Kenshi content!

@karamanid I always assumed that the Hivers went mad without their queen and without the pheromones they all went mad or the sudden shock of losing the leader of the hive mind shatters their minds and turns them into mindless cannibals.

Lol no idea. @karamanid

How the hell Fogmen can take over the South hive there are literally kingdoms between them @V Diddy

Oh good, it worked for you! Mods in the Steam folder versus in the mods folder sometimes seem to be wonky when I make updates. I hope it was seamless!

Thank you for the update CamelSpyd3r!

@Karamanid No. The fogman just take over the southern hive. Also the fogman are hivers taken over by some type of parasite (its what Beep said)

If you kill the Queen of other hivers souh or west theyll become Fogmen too, thus means Fogmen are hivers whose Queen died

thats fair enough the fog queen spawn would really just be to add an intresting throw away charccter anyways doesnt really add or take to much away in my opinion i always thought it fogmen were just normal hiver that got infected the dialoge in the shark bar states that, the whole talking fogman get im, "no im just a normal hiver not a fogman" bit kinda confirms a transformation when the get parasited most likely their western hivers plus when certain world states are acheived fogmen will appear in previously hiver or southen hiver controlled places

When I posted this to r/Kenshi there was a bit of controversy over the existence of a Fog Queen, I think that fogmen were a third faction of hive that went feral from parasites and the Queen died as a result. There's only one statement when entering the fog from a hiver that says fogmen are infected and can't be helped, but that isn't enough to go on to really know if the south and western hives just turn blue if they get infected or if blue is the normal color of this third hive. In lieu of tackling that gray area I just made both a blue and magenta queen race and I leave it up to players to decide what they believe the lore is.

It kinda makes sense. It is stated that hivers can became fogmen if they are infected by some kind of parasite. So if there was one more hive that would mean their queen could be infected.

Fog Queen doesnt make sense, Fogmen are the hivers whose Queen died

hello been checking out your mods, i have ideas for this mod you could have a fog queen spawn as a one off unique in the fog man biome since in lore fogmen are just hivers that succumb to a parasite so it makes sence that maby the fogmen are the result of a northern hive that died out due to the parasite?

also would you be able to edit the southern hive queens skeleton so she has no robotic attachments? would be a gud idea to make the two factions more unique from each other i,e westurn hive uses more tec and augmentation example queens robotics to increase hiver birth rate hence why they seem the most spread out and numerical of the hivers, southern hive are more basic natural and without augmentaion hence why they are stronger but far fewer in number natural birth rates fewer hivers so more time and value put into each hiver so their hivers are stronger and of better quality