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Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition >  Workshop > Workshop de ToonTotalWar > Harder Economy Sub Mod - by Bran Mac Born, Wars Of The Gods Compatible Only - Updated 23/9/2023
Harder Economy Sub Mod - by Bran Mac Born, Wars Of The Gods Compatible Only - Updated 23/9/2023
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OverratedReaper 1 FEB 2023 a las 20:05 
Also the bug goes away as soon as gold is given to player. Very strange
OverratedReaper 1 FEB 2023 a las 20:02 
Playing as Rome with this mod, 40 turns in suddenly Syracuse (satrapy) is providing me with 330 million gold per turn out of nowhere.
BRAN MAC BORN 14 NOV 2021 a las 12:29 
Play on Normal
AbeS 2 OCT 2021 a las 0:17 
On hard I get flat -10k upkeep.
AbeS 2 OCT 2021 a las 0:04 
Hey, I'm also having problems with economy. Playing Epirus on VH and i've disbanded all my armies, navies and agents. I still get -16k on army upkeep which leads to -5k each turn. I'm using some submods like People, Blood Mod, Lower Visibility Range, Better Formations, etc. The Harder Economy submod is on top.
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 24 ABR 2021 a las 23:35 
Hydra - have posted screen on discord channel on "Modding chat", Bactria are fine and the income is as already described below, dunno what your doing wrong but there is nothing wrong with income.
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 24 ABR 2021 a las 15:01 
Also I find the harder economy sub mod is only needed in Grand Campaign game as all other campaigns seem to play fine on Hard difficulty with average incomes available for player
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:58 
Hydra - I played Bactria on Hard difficulty with Harder Diplomacy only and after two tuns i had 640 denarii left in my account and income was 2880 per turn, I built buildings and recruited units so all is playing as it is in game, no excess monies at all for this faction
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:36 
Ok sign up to discord and let’s chat on there further
Hydra 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:32 
As far as I know it's fully updated, got it on the steam launcher so it should be auto updated? I just play with WOTG and Orbis Terrarum. Yeah I'll look up your discord, sounds good:) But not right now, about to go to sleep :D
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:30 
What other mods re you playing with? Also can you join discord channel it’s easier to chat on there?
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:28 
Also last update on the main mod reduced the income by 50%. Are you playing with latest version of mod?
Hydra 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:27 
Or have I got some conflict I'm unaware of?
Hydra 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:26 
I was on very hard. This mod has added a - figure to my upkeep on other campaigns too though, is it supposed to?
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:25 
That’s correct, what difficulty level you playing on?
Hydra 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:24 
I was playing as Baktria and had the harder economy mod at the top, is that right?
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 24 ABR 2021 a las 14:08 
Hydra - which faction you playing as? And have you followed using the correct sub mods with the faction you playing as?
Hydra 24 ABR 2021 a las 13:52 
is this sub mod supposed to add a huge deficit to unit upkeep? -10,000 at beginning of campaign even after disbanding everything, and no way to make the money back with only a few settlements. It makes the game kinda unplayable, which is a terrible shame. The main mod gives far too much gold I think, whereas this has you bankrupt within a few turns, unless I am missing something? :D
Cook.Crappy 23 ENE 2021 a las 2:51 
Having a bug, where certain things like my faction leader getting married or moving an army into a city drastically changes income (ie: 15000 --> 5000). Also it appears the upkeep of units don't match up correctly to what the finance tab is showing (ie: recruit a hastati with 200 upkeep, but my upkeep increases by 300). Anyone else having these issues?
Adler4 16 ENE 2021 a las 10:22 
Hello evertone, while playing as egypt (turn 4 or 5 five) I saw the ennemy he had alreadu a huge Army with less region. does this mod affects the AI ? .....I don't think so.
Now im here I have another question, connection but it would be, why can' I secure loyalty with romans like the other factions ? ;)
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 6 AGO 2020 a las 11:07 
Cpt_Steal_Yo_Doritos that should not be happening! Verify your game cache as Carthage start with different generals. Also Alexander is in the mod and is correct,
Cpt_Doritos 6 AGO 2020 a las 9:55 
Hey guys, great mod. Two things, I have alexander the great as a general as Macedon. He is 44 years old, wondering why. Also, carthage all have the same model for every general. The one with the eye patch modeled after Hannibal? Running only your mods in good order.
John Halo 5 JUN 2020 a las 1:10 
Im having a problem with Massila, where as soon as I recruit a new general my expected income goes to over minus 1000
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 19:09 
might i add that was on hard difficulty
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 18:53 
and 2500 and in 2,500
you get my drift?
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 18:52 
okay last time, im sorry to be a bother but macedon is the only faction ive played as that has has problems with this mod everyother factions ive tried does fine can get a army pretty easily etc but macedon still goes bankrupt fact i start as rome makeing 18K and macedon as 2500 i dont think its the whole but but just macedon in particular if you could try and find a fix i would be grateful
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 17:18 
ok thanks sorry for bugging you i apprecate the help
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 30 MAY 2020 a las 11:56 
use the no ai buffs sub mod
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 11:44 
only one problem the ai can still get like 3 full stacks in the first couple of turns while i can barley get 1
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 30 MAY 2020 a las 11:42 
mmura [Red Cell] - thanks mate...enjoy the mod and give us feedback!
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 11:32 
just tried the same campaign out and its perfect thank you
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 11:24 
thanks bro i really appreceate yall the wotg mods is by far the best mod ive seen but the money we get kinda makes it feel easy in a sense but this sub mod manes it more balanced so thank yall keep up the good work
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 30 MAY 2020 a las 11:00 
mmura [Red Cell] - updated as requested, see change notes
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 9:37 
oh thanks i thought yall were just ignoring me im sorry
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 30 MAY 2020 a las 9:02 
mmura [Red Cell] - i have posted your comment to Bran as this is his department, will come back to you soon
mmura [Red Cell] 30 MAY 2020 a las 8:41 
yo can i get some help wit this????
mmura [Red Cell] 27 MAY 2020 a las 14:34 
hey dude for some reason when i play as macedon it bankrupts my treasury by 11000 and up, ive tired disbanding all my armies and navy but it stays banrupt by 9 greand and it says its because of army upkeep why is this happening?
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 6 SEP 2019 a las 8:05 
Yes
SirCartonDeWiart 6 SEP 2019 a las 5:55 
Does this make the economy tougher on the AI too?
Thomas Magnum 24 JUL 2019 a las 15:51 
I do plunder a lot which is the main reason for my total amount of money which is insane but my income still skyrocks. I got around12 settlements, 3 satraps, 6 trade agreements, 5 armies and 1 fleet.
Thomas Magnum 24 JUL 2019 a las 15:48 
No not really, playing with this submod and the total slaughter mod and I get this income:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/778478584844521774/A7DFAD1A1BB4F880A9A2E44FD11C24294050EFD5/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/778478584844521172/FD32FDFD941999E41C71874EBDB9AF15A91922C8/
The AI can barely attack me with full stack armies so I think they suffer more from it than me.
BRAN MAC BORN 21 JUL 2019 a las 1:19 
Is the economy tough enough?
Bergator 9 JUL 2019 a las 13:29 
Hey modders!! Nice mod but I've noticed that this submod doesn't change the cost and upkep of mercenary units.
BRAN MAC BORN 20 MAR 2019 a las 16:13 
Yes it does. There is an update coming. You will have a Harder economy-Harder? yes indeed.
Hawk™☆KevRockZ☆ 20 MAR 2019 a las 14:52 
Ok thx. Does this also work with Slower Campaign sub mod?
BRAN MAC BORN 20 MAR 2019 a las 12:04 
All player buildings and units and upkeep costs are raised in the campaign- gdp penalties too-it works-Play on Very Hard campaign.
Hawk™☆KevRockZ☆ 20 MAR 2019 a las 11:34 
No, just longer battles, people of rome and caesar shields sub mods.
ToonTotalWar  [autor] 20 MAR 2019 a las 1:11 
Are you using super slaughter sub mod as it is not compatible with that mod?
Hawk™☆KevRockZ☆ 19 MAR 2019 a las 16:50 
I just tested this mod, doesnt seem to work sadly. Same upkeep and costs as before. :(
BRAN MAC BORN 11 FEB 2019 a las 12:39 
Updated.