Also the bug goes away as soon as gold is given to player. Very strange

Playing as Rome with this mod, 40 turns in suddenly Syracuse (satrapy) is providing me with 330 million gold per turn out of nowhere.

Play on Normal

On hard I get flat -10k upkeep.

Hey, I'm also having problems with economy. Playing Epirus on VH and i've disbanded all my armies, navies and agents. I still get -16k on army upkeep which leads to -5k each turn. I'm using some submods like People, Blood Mod, Lower Visibility Range, Better Formations, etc. The Harder Economy submod is on top.

Hydra - have posted screen on discord channel on "Modding chat", Bactria are fine and the income is as already described below, dunno what your doing wrong but there is nothing wrong with income.

Also I find the harder economy sub mod is only needed in Grand Campaign game as all other campaigns seem to play fine on Hard difficulty with average incomes available for player

Hydra - I played Bactria on Hard difficulty with Harder Diplomacy only and after two tuns i had 640 denarii left in my account and income was 2880 per turn, I built buildings and recruited units so all is playing as it is in game, no excess monies at all for this faction

Ok sign up to discord and let’s chat on there further

As far as I know it's fully updated, got it on the steam launcher so it should be auto updated? I just play with WOTG and Orbis Terrarum. Yeah I'll look up your discord, sounds good:) But not right now, about to go to sleep :D

What other mods re you playing with? Also can you join discord channel it’s easier to chat on there?

Also last update on the main mod reduced the income by 50%. Are you playing with latest version of mod?

Or have I got some conflict I'm unaware of?

I was on very hard. This mod has added a - figure to my upkeep on other campaigns too though, is it supposed to?

That’s correct, what difficulty level you playing on?

I was playing as Baktria and had the harder economy mod at the top, is that right?

Hydra - which faction you playing as? And have you followed using the correct sub mods with the faction you playing as?

is this sub mod supposed to add a huge deficit to unit upkeep? -10,000 at beginning of campaign even after disbanding everything, and no way to make the money back with only a few settlements. It makes the game kinda unplayable, which is a terrible shame. The main mod gives far too much gold I think, whereas this has you bankrupt within a few turns, unless I am missing something? :D

Having a bug, where certain things like my faction leader getting married or moving an army into a city drastically changes income (ie: 15000 --> 5000). Also it appears the upkeep of units don't match up correctly to what the finance tab is showing (ie: recruit a hastati with 200 upkeep, but my upkeep increases by 300). Anyone else having these issues?

Hello evertone, while playing as egypt (turn 4 or 5 five) I saw the ennemy he had alreadu a huge Army with less region. does this mod affects the AI ? .....I don't think so.
Now im here I have another question, connection but it would be, why can' I secure loyalty with romans like the other factions ? ;)

Cpt_Steal_Yo_Doritos that should not be happening! Verify your game cache as Carthage start with different generals. Also Alexander is in the mod and is correct,

Hey guys, great mod. Two things, I have alexander the great as a general as Macedon. He is 44 years old, wondering why. Also, carthage all have the same model for every general. The one with the eye patch modeled after Hannibal? Running only your mods in good order.

Im having a problem with Massila, where as soon as I recruit a new general my expected income goes to over minus 1000

might i add that was on hard difficulty

and 2500 and in 2,500
you get my drift?

okay last time, im sorry to be a bother but macedon is the only faction ive played as that has has problems with this mod everyother factions ive tried does fine can get a army pretty easily etc but macedon still goes bankrupt fact i start as rome makeing 18K and macedon as 2500 i dont think its the whole but but just macedon in particular if you could try and find a fix i would be grateful

ok thanks sorry for bugging you i apprecate the help

use the no ai buffs sub mod

only one problem the ai can still get like 3 full stacks in the first couple of turns while i can barley get 1

mmura [Red Cell] - thanks mate...enjoy the mod and give us feedback!

just tried the same campaign out and its perfect thank you

thanks bro i really appreceate yall the wotg mods is by far the best mod ive seen but the money we get kinda makes it feel easy in a sense but this sub mod manes it more balanced so thank yall keep up the good work

mmura [Red Cell] - updated as requested, see change notes

oh thanks i thought yall were just ignoring me im sorry

mmura [Red Cell] - i have posted your comment to Bran as this is his department, will come back to you soon

yo can i get some help wit this????

hey dude for some reason when i play as macedon it bankrupts my treasury by 11000 and up, ive tired disbanding all my armies and navy but it stays banrupt by 9 greand and it says its because of army upkeep why is this happening?

Yes

Does this make the economy tougher on the AI too?

I do plunder a lot which is the main reason for my total amount of money which is insane but my income still skyrocks. I got around12 settlements, 3 satraps, 6 trade agreements, 5 armies and 1 fleet.

No not really, playing with this submod and the total slaughter mod and I get this income:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/778478584844521774/A7DFAD1A1BB4F880A9A2E44FD11C24294050EFD5/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/778478584844521172/FD32FDFD941999E41C71874EBDB9AF15A91922C8/
The AI can barely attack me with full stack armies so I think they suffer more from it than me.

Is the economy tough enough?

Hey modders!! Nice mod but I've noticed that this submod doesn't change the cost and upkep of mercenary units.

Yes it does. There is an update coming. You will have a Harder economy-Harder? yes indeed.

Ok thx. Does this also work with Slower Campaign sub mod?

All player buildings and units and upkeep costs are raised in the campaign- gdp penalties too-it works-Play on Very Hard campaign.

No, just longer battles, people of rome and caesar shields sub mods.

Are you using super slaughter sub mod as it is not compatible with that mod?

I just tested this mod, doesnt seem to work sadly. Same upkeep and costs as before. :(

Updated.