@hoteldoor The only way to stop that from happening is if the social fight never starts. Like, we detect that a colonist can insta-kill someone in one hit, and make them an ineligible participant for a social fight. I'd have to look into it and see if it's possible to do.

@hoteldoor - Who could have possibly foreseen the natural consequences of using OP mods?

One of my colonist has 400 fist dps and a new recruit had a social fight with him, which results in the recruit instantly dying. Is there a way to make it so that its impossible for social fights to lead to death?

I don't know how often the game checks to see whether a social fight should continue, but when it does check the mod will have a combatant give up if a body part is damaged past a certain threshold. Even bloodlust pawns will accept a surrender.

An instant kill is a possibility, but it's unlikely because you would need a colonist who does a lot of damage in one hit.

@Sleepless Homunculus I ran a test in dev mode for you. I had two masochist,tough,bloodlust pawns that hated each other have fights in a 22x15 walled in sandstone room. Weapons are not used in social fight regardless. And in multiple attempts, I conclude it is possible for them to be downed bleeding and crawling to bed, but they never dismembered body parts. They were both competent fighters and I was using Charactor Editor for the purpose of testing: the amount of damage varies randomly.

TL;DR
The can still be downed and bleeding. I believe the mod protects from dismemberment.

DISCLAIMER
From I don't have knowledge if they can still die, <storyteller mechanic is "Colonist instant kills %> maybe the author could elaborate whether that is indeed possible at all?

Or downed.

If two masochist / bloodlust pawns go at it, one is gonna end up dead?

Awesome, thanks!

Completely safe to add to or remove from existing saves.

Is this one safe to add mid-save or should a new save be started for it?

Didn't run into any problems with the new version for 1.6 unstable. If it breaks, let me know.

i appreciate your time and effort :)

GOOD. THANKS.

Should just need to be recompiled for 1.6, so I'll take a look on Saturday and see if I'm totally wrong about that. :)

UPDATE WHEN????????????????

I've been happily using this mod for so damn long now that I don't even remember what a regular social fight is like. I was watching my friend play and things got quite out of hand. Great mod.

Ohhhhh

Seems to be working fine here.

mod is bugged atm , pawns will just stand around after social fighting while social fight is still active but nothing is happening resulting into not being able to boost the time etc

Ohhhhh

O7

Bros been updating since 2018 and I never knew this mod existed. Thanks friend.

Trawling for fresh 1.5 mods, and THIS is how I find out this wasn't already how social fights work?! Bless you, child. Maybe now my pawns won't turn each other's torsos into pulp quite so often.

can you make a version where you can start a social fight

Updated for 1.5 unstable. No changes were needed, so it should work fine. Let me know if there are any problems, though!

Alex bit Wyn'deursh in the heart viciously. He died.

@Tamm, yea I ended unsubbing from the mod due to this. I wish there was a mod that would consider melee skill before social fighting

My colonists start to immediately leave social fight as soon as it started with no hardm to eachother, does any1 have the same issue ?

I have always felt the 'Social fighting' in Rimworld vanilla was more like some pawn using an insult or such as a psychopathic excuse to kill/maim those they hate.

I have found with stories from other families, stories of accidents from siblings, and from my own person experience, is that most standard ideas of what would be a social fight is just a minor fight that has little to no true threat to life. In the instances where said threats occur are usually do to accidents or without intent.

Long story short, most fights are just short, NOT to the death, skirmishes of emotion.
Any exceptions are for reason that are NOT common, (Accidents, Bloodlust, Psycopaths, etc.)

"Exceptions to the rule, does not make the rule invalid. The rule exists for a reason.

Snapout covers a range of different mental breaks, this just covers social fighting.

Is this just a better version of Snapout?

Obviously one of the colonists was named Astarion.

> Social Fight
> Neck; Bite, Human Teeth

I never thought I'd download this mod until my colonist beheaded another colonist from a social fight earlier

@Daniel just another normal day out on the rim huh?

+1 giving thanks :o)

great mod. Had a colonist rip an arm and an eye of anther colonist from a social fight

Just coming to give thanks for this mod. It's saved countless colonists over the years

Ty such a great mod! Social fights in the mid to late game when half the colony is biomodded were a nightmare and leaving colonists dead or with missing limbs and the hospital full constantly. This helps so much!

any mods that reduce the severity of social fights even more? i want to keep them but i got a lot of angry pawns that just love to live with bruises all the time

pyscopath, abrasive?

Traits, of course, but I'd rather look for something ambient, or (semi-)passive. Like rage gas, psycasts without diplomatic consequences, horrifying appliances that drive mad... Ok, this is not the right place to ask this.

If I remember right, there's a trait (or traits) which make it more likely for a social fight to happen. I don't remember if traits have weights (the higher the weight, the more likely they are to be chosen) but if so, that would be a place to start.

I'm looking for a mod that could do relatively the opposite of this one. I want to make a crazy room for my visiting caravans where visitors will go mad, like berserking due to low mood (with corpses and effigies laying around) or social fighting. Any ideas how could I force visitors to social fight with each other more?

It will help with berserk idiots?

It probably helped that I was really tired when I first came across this mod but your mod picture had me crying laughing so thank you for that.

Had the incident of a pawn being stuck in a "social fight" from a mental breakdown. Orange colored. I don't know if this mod causes it, but it definitely will nonstop fill the error log when it happens. Workaround: Keep a dart gun handy. :)

Thank you!

ahh. cool it still sounds like an improvement over vanillas high likelihood to end up crippled for life over an unarmed punch. therefore i will install it.

No. It can only stop the fight early if one of the fighters is badly injured, or prevent it from starting. The problem is that the game treats social fights as if they are real battles, no holding back, so full damage is dealt. My thoughts on this are, if colonists have the ability to be so savage when someone insults their parentage, they need to be able to take that damage instead of getting their arm instagibbed.