everything you eat is alive , plants are alive too , in that logic just don't eat anything , vegans makes 0 sense .

Just an FYI:
Among the many new techs added by the Tech Mex mod is a tech called "Grown Meat". I'm guessing that is very similar to this mod. (And I assume this mod was derived from the {Steam Location} \steamapps\common\Surviving Mars\ModTools\Samples\Mods\SyntheticMeat\ sample mod provided by the devs.)

So while this mod may be too outdated to run now, at least the Tech Mex mod still runs and seems to have a version of this.

Is there a pork-flavored one? If so, it could be marketed as "Sham Hocks" and people could open a can, add a touch of salt, and just pig out!

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

@Shagglehod yes.. maybe unclicking the Subscribe to Thread button maybe ?

Haha and now we have actual cows in the gamee

Omg these comments are hysterical.

it is possible to stop comment... The debate is ended there is 9 months...

Is it possible to disable comments? Sheesh.

Oh my f***ing God, will everyone shut up? Stop arguing about this, it's so pointless! It literally has no impact on anything!

Vegans: I have nothing against you, and neither should anyone else. But if people want to eat meat, let them. It's their choice to eat meat, just like it's your choice to NOT eat meat.

Non-vegans who won't shut up: Literally no one infringing on your rights to eat meat, so why are you being so hostile? We're omnivores, get over the fact that some people want to eat plants rather than meat.

Everyone else, myself included, thank you for your outstanding patience when dealing with the two sides screaming aimlessly at each other.

Branches for bones, crunchy bark for skin, and swollen pockets of congealed tree sap for flesh! Buy new Synthetic Meat now, for all your balanced dietary requirements on Mars!

Why are there vegetarians? The monks all ate meat.

It's funny how we're the only species that cares about our food's feelings.

And im subscribing just because of the Vegan

LOL fuggin love watching and listening to vegans piss on about their higher learned selves and their bloody morals. HA. oh fuck where's mah bloody jameson this is gonna be good.

too much arguing for the just synthetic meat... (the first who talk pain for animal for synthetic meat must revise his dictionary)

I hate activists vegan...
Just leave people make their own choice in their soul and conscience...

This would have more sense if it's grown in the Hydroponics fams, like the Algae.

What I expected when I looked at this mod: What building it grows in (farm or hydroponics), what its yield is, growth time, and effect on soil quality (if its in a farm),

Instead I get another pointless argument involving vegans.

All this arguing because of a mod about synthetic meat for a game?

Endurance walking is not nearly as helpful for gathering plants as it is for hunting.

I hate vegans......

But whatever, if good taste is worth your health, the planet and so much suffering, there's no being rational with you.

And no Mr Spanish Pibbsquisition, you are scientifically and provably wrong, where as I can back up every statement I've made. Yes, poop bacteria. And where does poop bacteria end up, smartypants? In the soil. And thus in the plants. That's where fauna initially get their B12. From eating plants growing in soil.

Actually, both early and late stone age people were nearly entirely plant based. They would eat the occasional maggot or frog that they managed to catch. You don't need big brains to hunt. You need speed, agility and power. None of which humans have. We are endurance walkers, and extremely effective at it. Brains are for remembering where the good food is.

Damb lol, I love me a good vegan battle every now and again and the one that took place in this lil’ thread was real entertaining. Defs wurth goin’ back and readin’ through it all. Nice mod btw, gotta love some meatsies.

Convince all of the great cats that it is better to become vegans and maybe you can convince others. :)

Is that vegan idiot guru still on this thread? If so I want you to know that you're wrong. Every single statement you've made is wrong, except maybe about canine teeth. For instance, colbalmin or whichever vitamin it is doesn't come from soil bacteria, it comes from poop bacteria. Many herbivores will eat their own poop to get enough of the vitamin. The only reason there's none in vegetables anymore is that we wash the poop off of them before we eat them nowadays.

You cant handle the fact that if it wasnt for meat your ancestors would have died out.

It's not my fault some people can't handle facts. What's more sad and funny is that so many people feel the need to rush to the defense of someone mocking and insulting vegans, and getting his comeuppance. Before calling me passive-aggressive, maybe make sure you're not just being very defensive :-) Anyway, have a nice day.

Rune, the idea of this kind of debate is promoting your cause over the other's, Being a passive agressive snob is the reason the game has it's own trait just to mock you people. You're not a better person if you do it just to be a better person and try standing above others.

Look at other great ape teeth, Droidhacker. Human canines are the smallest by far. And all the other great apes are by and large herbivores.

I hate to break it to all vegans, if you want proof there is nothing wrong with eating meat, go up to a mirror and open your mouth, see those sharp teeth? Thats for eating meat. However we came to be, whether evolution or God, decrees that there is nothing wrong Humans eating meat; we wouldnt have those teeth if it was wrong

I don't need to "help my case". Someone attacked herbivorism and veganism, I quoted facts, people were offended and defensive. Not my problem. Have a good day :-)

your still not helping your cause.

If people become hostile to veganism because someone sets them straight about the scientific facts, then they are idiots.

rune your comment are neither constructive nor welcom. you are not helping the vegan cause just making enemies of it. you are not helping the develloper just spaming non sense in the chat.

yes you can get vitamine b12 other sources algea and a couple of mushroom (which aren't or only minimally farmed).

if you want to promote the vegan diet don't attack the other that has the opposite effect. find something constructive with common ground. i like food, give interesting recipes.

Then you eat human beings. It's good for the environment!

What if like me you don't have a conscience?

lol Min. I was replying to Red Floyd who started the argument. It's funny you should accuse me of starting it. That's called confirmation bias. You probably didn't even bother to check.

Frankly, your defensiveness is very telling. The thing is you can never win an argument with a vegan, because you're not debating the vegan, you're debating your conscience :-D

*follow up. Problem solved, if anyone else can't find where to grow them you use the farms, but if you're loading a previous save you need to demolish and then rebuild the farms to ger the meat as an option.

Rune, don't complain about meat eaters giving you "unsolicited lifestyle advice" when you literally came into this comment thread with, "there's nothing healthy/neccessary in meat," "embrace the future," and "I'm vegan btw". Nobody asked.

Description of vegan trait in game: "Don't worry, they'll tell you."
Too right.

Anyway actually getting back on topic, where do you grow this crop? I've checked the farm and hydroponics but I don't seem to be getting it as an option.

"I'm going to enjoy my essential proteins in a form other than pills"

I'm 37 years old. I've been vegetarian since age 15. Vegan for 4 years. I have never taken a pill for amino acids. I'm 6'5" tall (196cm), and weigh over 150kg (335+). I bench press over 200kg, I shoulder press over 300. I leg press over 600kg.

I will restate my original comment: There's absolutely nothing essential in meat, dairy or eggs humans cannot get from a superior, healthier source in the plant kingdom. And that includes B12 which has been depleted from the top soil through farming, but which is other omnipresent in nature, including wild plants.

"I don't have any problem with the concept of veganism. You know what I do have a problem with? People who shove their lifestyle in your face"

You mean kind of like every person who hears you're a vegan and offers their unsolicited advice - or every advertisement ever made? Animal agriculture is the largest industry in the world. The one that is destroying our planet. And the food industry the one that advertises the most.

Please tell me more about how vegans are annoying :-D

"except most of the essential amino acids, proteins, caloric value, etc..."

All essential amino acids are present in all plants.

"It's hard to live healthy with zero meat. Not impossible, just hard to do, especially if you lack $$$ and a local Whole Foods market..."

Nonsense. Being a healthy vegan is far cheaper than being an omnivore. Root vegetables, legumes, grains, seeds, most nuts, even fruit, are affordable and plentiful.

(3/3) Cage farms and meat factories are bad and I get that, but rather than just flipping the table and eating grass, how about we pursue cruelty-free meat instead? On a properly run farm, an animal enjoys a comfortable lifestyle with an assurance they'll at least reach adulthood, receiving better health care than even some citizens, and when it's time for them to die, it's quick and painless. These are things they wouldn't get in the wild. In the wild, they'd get a percentile chance at surviving to adulthood, and when they die it's far more likely to be of a slow illness or the cutting painful bites of a predator.

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In short, Rune, I get what you and other vegans are trying to do, but not every question has a single answer. Look at more than five pixels before you talk to people about the big picture.

(2/3) I'm going to enjoy my essential proteins in a form other than pills (pills made in a factory), because as much as I can appreciate a bowl of peanuts, I also love jello. I love scrambled eggs with melted cheese. I love fried chicken. I love honey. I enjoy tuna sandwiches. I adore ranch dressing, especially with bacon in it.

(1/3) @Rune as the tooltip in the game says in reference to vegans "Don't worry, they'll let you know"

I don't have any problem with the concept of veganism. You know what I do have a problem with? People who shove their lifestyle in your face. People who look so far down their nose they need a periscope to walk. People who obsess about their lifestyle choice and phrase their every opinion as if it's god's sacred word and it's herasy to disagree.

I like tofu, I like salad, and so on and so forth, and I'm sure if I was left without alternative I could adapt to a meatless lifestyle, but so long as my mouth contains incisors and canines, I'm going to do what my genetics tell me and enjoy my bacon.

"nothing healthy or necessary in meat" except most of the essential amino acids, proteins, caloric value, etc...

It's hard to live healthy with zero meat. Not impossible, just hard to do, especially if you lack $$$ and a local Whole Foods market...

Finally, there are so many soy/vegetable products masquerading as vegetarian meat on our supermarket shelves... why not Mars? Thank you for the mod.

Ok, phew!