@Lunarauss, they said in the announcement that the mods was free to adopt.

For all interested, I fixed the txt files for the Dreadnought and Carrier, making them again able to wield weapons. I'm not a modder perse so I don't know how much else is "broken".

I can share the txt-files if you like.

@ScootaCross
We will not be updating SCX anymore. You can read the announcement here

Needs an update. As of 2.6.1 Dreadnaughts have no weapons

Guess they need to nerf Carriers to compansate.

Dreadnoughts are underpowered, currently seems worse than battleships.

k thanks

It works, it doesn't need an update, the 2.4 launcher has issues, please disregard version mismatch warnings.

does this mod work and how can i get code to make it work on 2,4 update

AI Empires, Federations, and just simply the script not being airtight, with some loopholes I could never find a way to patch up. Hard caps are a lot more reliable and a lot easier to control on both player and AI side.

I think they had a soft cap once upon a time, but it had to be "hard coded" for each ship up to a hard cap and there were issues with the AI empires.

Would you consider removing the hard 20 ship limit? I like soft caps but hard caps like that just feel arbitrary.

all the SCX ships seem to work well with real space btw i dont see any isues least with minimal testing so far i just hope it plays nicely with glavius AI mod ill tell u anything i find once i start playing now that i got all my mods working

well it works now it was another mod that was messing it up

i tested it out using vanilla ship set the 2nd time to make sure ill retest it as well

Ohhh... okay that's a lot more informative. Thank you! We'll investigate it.

Could you tell me what shipset you were using?

i tested this out btw i was using real space and some other mods but i started up the game researched all tech and was able to build it but if i did it came out as a texture bos IE no textures for it and if i went into ship designer to change it it would crash my game

Not presently working with the current 2.2 build. The ship appears in technology as available to learn, but is missing its correct text. Once the technology is learned, the ship is not available.

Cool, always wanted one of those.

@RedDeath: They are digging the magic "make it work" button out of their closet. Please stand by.

Any plans to update to 2.2? :)

@TNS: There's nothing we can do about it sadly. Ship-class specific names are defined within individual namelists. Our ships will take names from the "generic" category, if there is one, but if the namelist in question only has class-specific names, SCX classes have to be added to it, not the other way around.

Just want to point out there is a minor bug with Space Combat Expanded ships (such as dreadnoughts and carriers) don't have namelists for ship classes for special custom empires that spawn in-game such as Event Chains.

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1523989632
(these guys are from Distant stars i think)
Really a small thing, but just pointing it out there.

Hmm, I was wondering if there was maybe a very expensive technology , or maybe a giant negative Relations multiplier to tack on? I mean, I can understand why you'd like to balance against infinite production, but in reality, if a nation/empire wants to produce a giant armada the only HARD limit should be resources. What about adding on federation naval capacity as part of the dreadnought limit? Or multiple vassals?

love the mod but theres an issue with the actual turret mounts. Reversing them so that they face 'forwards' in idle position makes them fire backwards in combat itself. makes taking pretty in-combat pics wierd, to say the least. is this working as intended?

@Cúchulainn: There is but we won't. Ships can never be balanced around infinite production capacity. Having a hard limit provides us with more control over the class' power and makes it easier to test.

Hello! Is there any way to lift the 20 Limit on Dreadnought class ships??

What really baffles me is that the dreadnoughts from the Repair Automated Shipyard are a different design from the Dimensional Pocket sciencedreadnought

Let's pretend there are no typos or weird sounding sentences in my previous post...

It's most likely due to mod fuckery somewhere in my mod list, just wasn't sure what the root cause is because it was dreads being spawned via events. Not surprised that SCX isn't at fault though.

@MacrosoftWord: Okay, I'm even more confused fter looking into it. From the code, it should be impossible. If this was possible to happen, that would be endemic of greater problem in the game's ability to reference specific records (in this case, global designs). Which would render it unplayble and this sort of problem a lot more prevalent.

However I've been unable to verify that the problem exissts within vanilla Stellaris and I'm 120% cure that SCX is physically unable to affect events in this fashion.

Which leaves the only possibility that would make the universe make sense again: are you sure you aren't using some mod that messes with vanilla anomalies and/or adds new ones?

@MacrosoftWord
That event should create three ships of the global ship design "NAME_R44". Which is... a pirate corvette. The actual ship instances are created using design = last_created_design parameter, which should be R44, but in your case it is something else.
I have no idea how could that happen and why last_created_design suddenly becomes a SCX Dreadnought. I guess it wrecks your economy that early in the game :)

@MacrosoftWord: Huuuuh... this is weird and should be physically impossible. We don't touch, directly or indirectly, any vanilla events. But it is possible they changed in 2.1/Distant Stars.

We'll investigate it, thank you!

okay so considering i got another dread from the "dimensional pocket" event, which should give an unbidden-looking science ship, im not sure if SCX is at fault or if something else is broken https://my.mixtape.moe/nmonmk.png

So uh, something really broke when I completed the "Repair Automated Shipyard" https://my.mixtape.moe/khonbp.png

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

@ColossusCrusher: It's because we don't want dreadnoughts to have a counter to its own counter (swarms of small ships). It is meant to be a strictly specialised tank-buster.

And tracking is the best way to fine-tune that balance. Big ships don't have a lot of evasion so tracking is irrelevant against them, but small ships live or die by their ability to dodge stuff. Soooo by lowering dreads' inherent tracking, we can easily make them terrible at fighting corvettes/destroyers without affecting their ability to deal with capital ships.

I guess I'm just wondering why it's negative - none of the vanilla ship computers have negative modifiers, and it just sticks out to me.

@ColossusCrusher: That... is umm actually a good question n_n We should probably make it inherent to the hull. Adding a static modifier to every single computer seems redundant.

I'll see about fixing it, thank you! <3

Just curious, but why does the dreadnought computer have a negative tracking modifier?

@Jadefire: Yes, vanilla shipsets won't display turrets on the front-middle section (it's decorative)

In my game, my dreadnoughts have a module with visibly empty weapons slots that I can't put weapons in (since I can only change three modules) Is that supposed to happen?

...wait 1/2. i can numbers yes

i understand the cap

but this method of doing it, just... what? why these numbers specifically and why only 20

2/3 of cap is 3/5 of cancer

Of, this isn't a democracy, it's the Queendom of Nessasity. Still, If, somehow in my tall play, I end up with a huge navy with tons of fleets, I'd rather not only have a fixed number of those contain a titan or dreadnought.

For what it's worth, I love soft caps.

Well but softcap is much better cause it represents the real state of empire's ambitions. Instead of hardcapping why don't you just make it so we can buid 1+75 or 1+100 per naval cap?
Hardcap will cause things to be looking as broken for really big empires on really big maps. Some people play (with mods) on 2k stars maps and even larger ones so their fleet caps can be much more than 1k where hardcap will start working.
It will look like "We are a really big empire with 4k fleet cap that can handle 20 Titans but we cannot afford smaller ships for some reason".

@Kypamop: I love hard caps. Big ships, when mass-produced, lose their uniqueness. I already reinstated the 3 Titans limit and imposed one on Battleships in our Mass Effect Classes module and going forward we may end up tightening the restrictions even further. It's a great way to counteract some balance issues we used to be have before it was possible.

Hi there! The number of Titans in 2.0.2beta was increased to maximum of 20 per empire, they are counted as 1 for 200 fleet power so they are close to unlimited (4000 fleet power). You hardcapped Dreadnoughts to 20 per empire and it is 20x50=1000 fleet power that can be reached in late game on large maps.. Do you really think that this hardcap is necessary?

@space king
You're probably on Stellaris version 2.0.1. You should upgrade to 2.0.2beta for SCX to work.