Great Mod, perfectly thematic! I hope to see this on WH 3 IE as wood elves are so annoying when they expand! Breaks the immersion a lot for me!

It has been updated for S&F. Apologies for being so slow, I haven't been playing this game that much recently and stopped using this mod myself after the WE update so I kind of forgot about it.

@Marduk1813 Realized this mod wasn't updated since the Beastmen patch. I'll get it updated soon since it looks like game 2 probably has only 1 or 2 more updates before things go over to game 3. Personally I haven't been using this mod since the WE update last December since I haven't seen Bretonnia or the Grey Mountain Dwarfs getting as constantly steamrolled by WE as much as they used to. Thanks for the comment.

Hey dude,

first of all thanks for this mod. The WE snowballing has been a really big issue back then, and I remember I canelled a pretty neat Empire campaign because the WE had conquered all of the southern and badlands and were coming for me with serveral stacks.

I'm currently playing a Beastmen campaign and this mod seems to break the option to place a herdstorne. I just noticed it when I razed Lothern and had no option raise one. I replayed the battle with your mod disabled, and now the options is back.

Just to let you know. Again, thanks for the mod!

yeah it probably is, this mod isn't intended to be used as the WE, it prevents the WE from expanding and is intended for non WE factions.

I'm not sure if it comes from this mod, but it seems this mod prevents the Wood Elf to colonize some Tree settlements, such as the Forest of Gloom.

I'll get it updated but I'll have to look over what they've changed with the we update, I might have to change how the mod works

can confirm that WE factions can resettle a ruin after losing their last settlement and alive, so only an issue if they have confederated.

There are mods that remove amber however and are compatible with this

Amber is unchanged, mod isn't intended for player use, though I'm not sure if the AI uses it anyway.

Amber?

you know what would be great and sort out the wood elfs campaighn amber for razing

Thanks a lot for this mod.

I basically just recreate it from the updated db every time as it basically involves deleting 2 lines

did you have to update any of the db? i see there were a bunch of new/edited tables with this update

Updated for Warden and Paunch

It should be fine

updated?

gotcha, I figured out the right combination and it does require keeping the "data__" name :) thanks!!

Only change I made was deleting occupation options

did you only get this to work by being data cored? i'm attempting to combine this with a VC mod and realized you left everything like vanilla just deleted the WEF occupation option

Sounds like they probably edit the same file, if changing the load order works then that's great.

for some stupid ass reason, this conflicts with VCoast edits...i had to put this ABOVE "vamp coast sack only" to get noseed to work. not sure if this is a CA issue (linked tables) or what

thanks for the continued awesome mod

Got it! Should be updated now. Thank you Commissar Rotke for the suggestion

cool thanks for letting me know

hey Carferry, you should join Cataph's discord- they have a whole layout of table changes and more

If anyone knows where plz let me know

Ok so in the new update it looks like they have moved the occupation stuff from the occupations_options table, so it might take me a bit to find how to update this

thanks for letting me know

hello, i did some testing and the fact that this is datacored, is why it works with SFO! i couldn't get it to work otherwise :(

Yes I'll try that, also @MINOS I will look into AI changes but I'm not that big into modding

can you also rename the db file itself so this isn't datacored :( it overrides Vampirate Curtailment and makes them able to occupy again.

Instead you could also tweak the Woodelves AI to be more passive in their Isolationist Tasks Management and make Orion AI Personality an Isolationist, instead of aggressive, which would keep the Options still functioning.
But this works also...if the Player is not playing them, but they can never reconquer then, like you wrote.
Both Options are not perfect, though, because the AI tends to ignore Orders for not colonizing sometimes - thats why Empire and Bretonnia AI are also conquering Norsca sometimes :D

hmm, I'll double check it but it seems to work for me, if you have any mods that at all edit capturing settlements that might conflict

doesnt seem to be working

I actually like this mod for playing WE, it forces you to ally with other factions in order to complete your campaign objectives and to go anywhere beyond Athel Loren. I should mention I was also using the true campaigns mod so "good" factions were more likely to ally with me against their enemies.

I think it's similar done like Norsca and it'd need the appropriate regions to be included in the occupation_decision - but am not quite sure, how the restriction is handled. (all is handled within 'campaign_group_member_***' tables)
On the other hand, I've never seen the AI coming close to raze/occupy/threatening the WE but the player - and the latter usually has the necessary force to undermine re-settlement ^^... in 3 ME campaigns (at least up to point it gets boring - WE are typically within the top3 factions with quite a serious/massive force to defend against invader + their forest bonus + anti-agent-bonus and what not else...)

Thy forest shall burn!

Thank you, yes I believe the WE by default have all or almost all climates suitable. Once I have time I may try to create a climate based version to eliminate the drawback from this version of them not being able to recapture their own settlements, though I am not that experienced of a modder.

THX! While I wanted to avoid it first, I just use it further in my Norsca campaign. They go crazily wild for any razed settlement and become a major nuisance, if left unchecked and have lvl 1 outposts to fallback and recover like every-frigging-where.
(they don't seem to care about any climate at all, that just makes it even worse...)

In my first game they were number 2 by conquering the world lol - not any more it shall be! :)

please make this work for sfo

@Carferry

thanks a ton for this WE are all ofter the plac in my game and that stupid missle and melee damge bonus they gain from outposts makes them melt everything

Im not sure I understand

how about deleting outpost building data? I will try this too.

No, the mod is not really intended to be used as Wood elves, though I suppose you could use it with a mod that removes amber.

hi. if you play as this faction, you can colonize?

I wish this or any mod like this would work with SFO ugh.... for anyone wanting to have this effect but using SFO, you can go in to PFM and the SFO pack file, find the table mentioned in the mod description, and delete the lines for the wood elves that have to do with occupying. That is the only way I know how to stop them from taking over the world.

k ill let you know if I have any problems

Yea, I had to resubscribe to make it work. It’s fine. This is something that’s needed.