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@zigzagtenniscoe Response [telegra.ph]

Ah, so you easily found a way to prevent the player from getting the orange funnel onto the middle floor when they break the portal connection between the close and far sides, therefore preventing them from getting the LC onto the bridge button which enabled my much simpler previous set of moves .

No matter, though, because this is the other solution I had in mind for when this was forced. (I came up with it before this update, in other words)

@zigzagtenniscoe That method you did leading up to the final sequence is unintended. I'll update the map soon.

Response [telegra.ph], including the solution leading up to the new method after getting a cube onto the middle floor , more thoughts, and, of course, spoilers (for the sake of any curious lurkers).

@zigzagtenniscoe That is basically the same as the intended final sequence. What I intended was for you to pull yourself and the cube up through the ceiling, then place a portal on the flip panel that is on the floor next to the funnel, keeping the other portal on the ceiling in the bridge room. Then, drop the cube into the portal, place a portal where the funnel projects onto, so that now you have the cube rising in the bridge room, then when it gets near the top, place the funnel on the main flip panel, jump across, and take the cube off the polarity button . Good job finding that.

But what I wonder is whether you did everything leading up to that in the intended way. Could you post a video or describe it?

Found another almost certainly unintended solution after the "final pull". The moves to get the cube onto the final flip panel button (including all setup moves between each actual usage of the funnel) are pretty simple and have been executed before by me, and end with a cube on the middle floor button and another on the funnel button.

I take the cube on the middle floor down and place it to the side of the white tile on the floor in the tall area, right below the other white tile on the ceiling. I lift myself with the reverse funnel and right before I go through, use the reverse funnel to pull the cube beneath me so it also gets pulled up. But now I'm on the other side of the portal, so I wait a second or two for the cube to reach the top and then place the funnel on the final flip panel. There's enough time for me to use the funnel to cross the gap and remove the other cube from the funnel button, meaning the funnel turns blue and pushes the cube onto the button that disables the final fizzler, AND I have a cube to put on the very final button as well.

This is also the very first method I've found where I'm able to take a CC to the exit 😄

@zigzagtenniscoe For the laser trick, as long as you place the cube out of the way of the portal (and thus the future funnel), if you get the wrong laser angle, you can just make a portal on the wall next to the laser to get back to where the cube is and redo the process, so there's not much time lost. I originally only had one half-width white surface near where the cube is placed and one half-width white surface on the wall in the bridge room, so that the correct angle was forced, but I thought that made the solution a bit too obvious.

The other point you made is a nice find. I'll have to patch it up.

Wow, that's a bit surprising. Very obscure for sure. Guess I can't put much past you with that, at least in terms of mostly logical moves, but I will say that if you don't angle the laser sharply from the point where you use it to activate the stairs so it's well out of the way of the portal it shoots through and therefore the funnel's influence, it can be quite tricky and somewhat tedious to determine the right angle to shoot the portal at on the ceiling, requiring many careful quicksaves in some instances. .

Anyway, I was under the impression that this laser method was the way to get a cube and blue funnel to the middle floor , but I just recently discovered another method where you sacrifice a CC to disable the fizzler in the far ceiling area again, so you can get to the far side of the map with an orange funnel initially, then use the long-timed flip panel to get back, but you go through with a portal on the two-long wall that's one block behind the fizzler which allows you to use a reverse funnel to access the LC respawn area. When you have the LC on the bridge button and the CC working the funnel, the bridge deactivates, so you can get back with either the LC or the CC with a blue funnel.