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[1.16.2.3] More Tolerant Pagans
   
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[1.16.2.3] More Tolerant Pagans

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If the ancient Egyptians could survive invasions by ancient Israelites, trade with Ethiopians, be vassals to Persians, accept Greek Pharaos, be ruled by Romans... Then lets be real, if a Hausa shaman and a Tengri nomad walked into a Norse tavern they probably end up friends with the whole village.
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  • Pagan family tolerance of same family faiths raised from 'Hostile' to 'Astray' and of other religions from 'Evil' to 'Hostile'. Promoting intermingling and removing holy wars. Gengis Khan wont revoke everyone anymore.
  • Gnostics faith tolerance raised from 'Evil' to 'Hostile' with Eastern Faiths.
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Ġedryht of Wōden 8 月 8 日 上午 3:26 
@mlgprocupcake 1
That's because Paganism didn't have organised theocratic institutions & their spiritual views reflected daily life & what they could observe was successful or not.
But to say they lack thought or theory tells me you haven't really studied mythology from a place of good faith (Religious or Atheist bias?), & likely took everything to its most literal interpretation without thinking of the role their spirits & deities had, the meaning behind their stories & philosophy often attributed to the Greeks, but present in all bronze & iron age mythology.
Many of the myths not only show the type of people & their roles to exist in society, but also represent many emotions & rationale of the mind aswell as the workings of nature (& often brings these concepts together).
Ġedryht of Wōden 8 月 8 日 上午 3:26 
@mlgprocupcake 2
Paganism is basically the culture & people who passed down the oral traditions & knowledge were often highly respected members of society.
Philosophers were effectively considered to be the wisemen of Greek society. However, the Druids, Godi & even the Brahma's of India effectively filled that same role.
People back then believed the deities & spirits contributed to every day life & even that malevolent spirits could make your life hard & start to possess you (not actually any different then what Christians believed in for most of history). Pagans believed spirits existed on a location based basis but always depicted their heavenly deities (especially the King of the Deities) in a cosmic position.
mlgprocupcake 7 月 13 日 下午 2:14 
@Ġedryht fair enough but also, they mainly didnt ensalve them due to religious reasions but becasue they were the "outsider" and its effecient/expediant for them to use them for free labor. and the main reason (in my opinion) that pagan religions tend to be less religiously hostile is that (aside from greco-roman stuff) not as much thought or theory was put into them as compared to abrahamics, and the greco-romans, the only pagans with somewhat codified theory (ie. plotinus) believed that 'gods' existed on a location based basis, and thus one should pay respects to the one who has dominion over whatever land they happen to be in
Comrade Clifford 6 月 16 日 上午 1:54 
Hey it looks like this mod changes inter-abrahamic tolerance to hostile. One number off in the files :)
fisto the robo  [作者] 5 月 27 日 上午 9:25 
update 1.1
-added gnostic 'hostile' tolerance to eastern faiths
Kämpfer 5 月 20 日 下午 12:49 
Not the tolerance, ahhh, it's in my eyeeees
fisto the robo  [作者] 3 月 19 日 上午 6:55 
@Ġedryht: the Elder Kings mod has something like that but thats way too complex to add to the game would probably be incompatible with everything
Ġedryht of Wōden 3 月 19 日 上午 5:46 
"If the ancient Egyptians could survive invasions by Jews, trade with Ethiopians, be vassals to Persians, accept Greek Pharaos, be ruled by Romans... Then lets be real, if a Hausa shaman and a Tengri nomad walked into a Norse tavern they probably end up friends with the whole village."

Or they might enslave and kill each other. But not for religious reasons. Every culture in pre-Christian times wanted to be the dominant group.
Religion and Culture were not really two seperate ideas to pagans. The word "Culture" itself comes from the word "Cult".
Also why presume Egyptians were happy being subjugated by foreign powers for their grain?
This mod does make sense though. Perhaps there should be a "main doctrine" where their religious tolerance doesn't matter but cultural acceptance factors are further emphasised.
It's fine if you don't know how to do this. Lazy Paradox devs probably should've done it already, but for now this mod still makes sense from a mechanics point of view.
WolvesofZiu 2024 年 12 月 4 日 下午 5:03 
NO! NOT THE BEES!
fisto the robo  [作者] 2024 年 8 月 30 日 下午 1:21 
It is not represented in this mod, but christians or muslims did marry pagans on the fringes of the religion.