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No More Shit Chariots (Updated)

When it will be for Dynasties?

@Scholae - your mod is brilliant, before CA will buff chariots and fix their pathfinding - every Pharaoh player should install your mod, especially if we are playing Hittites who were masters of chariot warfare. Thank you!

Man i love this mod! Not least for the photo of a Goat Chariot!

@soulmind I do agree that chariots could be slightly faster
@Hexagoros Chariots may faster than anything, but they feel really slow

@soulmind Increasing speed won't help, because they are already more than fast enough - they are much faster than anything else on the battlefield.

The issue is the game-engine. Chariots get stuck on positively everything, lose their pathfinding, or simply get 'confused,' and there really isn't much (anything) modders can do about that. Increasing speed would only make chariots 'even faster' in the moments where they 'do' work.

I think the current line of buffs works just fine, it gives you enough 'error room' to cover for chariots' jankyness without making them invincible cheat units.

Will this work in an existing campaign?

I think reducing the number of models but buffing them even more significantly would help, they still get stuck and it's hard to manoeuvre so many at a time

With your tweaks, they make lots of damage but still feel more like a sluggish, heavy Kislev sled to me. If this was my mod, I'd probably tune back the ranged damage, maybe HP from 50% to 35% and would try smth like 25%-35% speed increase.... Get them to feel more like horses are involved.

But I just played a bit and am by no means a chariot expert. Anyway, my 5 cents. Thanks for the mod! <3

I ran it in my game just now (without having tried the original balancing) and they were very strong but def far from unbeatable. The mass helps them to get out of sticky situations, and follow where you click better if there are obstacles in the way ;)

It's definitely viable if you want chariots to be really strong in your campaign, maybe slightly overtuned in terms of HP. An AI player who likes chariots will be MUCH more dangerous.

However, I felt the lack of speed / charge was the biggest issue I still saw.... Barely any accaleration, no charge to speak of (still), even fresh and downhill was barely faster.

@soulmindproductions I would say it's a matter of how janky chariots are. Chariots, especially Light Chariots, often just refuse to do what they are told. My archer chariots get WAY too close when I ask them to target a specific unit, and then when I order any chariot to charge in, I have to rapdi-fire click to get them out.

This mod, I feel, is necessary padding given how chariots often just refuse to follow orders.