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Simple Animal People

This looks super cool! I really like the concept. Does this mess with animal-inherited tags like [MEANDERER] or [BENIGN] that can make fortress-mode combat tricky?


Note for other commenters with huge animal person pops: Below is an explanation and a potential fix for the problem you are having.

I will be adding a Discussion topic expanding on other issues that make Animal People uniquely suited to surviving and thriving through a dangerous worldgen with massive populations, but hopefully the solution I present below is sufficient.

For other commenters, here's why you might be having population issues:

Civs with a random species selection, actually place a greater number of starting civs based on the number of available [CREATURE] tokens, so instead of expecting one Animal Person civilisation for every Dwarven civ, you may expect (geography willing) one Elephant Man civ AND one Lion Man civ AND one Wild Boar Man civ etc for every one Dwarven civ.

In addition, all of these animals are part of the same civilisation type with identical ethics and are thus unlikely to go to war with one another, a selective advantage against other civilisations. If their civilisation has the entity token [AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE], allowing the civ to exist in Wilds areas, they will be unable to fight other animal people who are not already part of a hostile entity/civ. This may compound the above issue with other threats being displaced by the number of animal person civs. (fix below)

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To fix the core problem explained above, you would simply duplicate the relevant [CREATURE] token for the [MOUNTAIN], [EVIL], [SKULKING], [PLAINS], and [FOREST] civilisations a few dozen times. You could do this in your base gamefiles for that world, but that would get messed up by updates.

In the files for this mod (so you don't have your fix killed by an update), add to the entity file the lines [SELECT_ENTITY:[i]MOUNTAIN/EVIL/etc[/i]] for each entity and, on the line below each instance of this line, hit tab and add something like [CREATURE:DWARF][CREATURE:DWARF][CREATURE:DWARF] like thirty times until you are satisfied that there is a fair balance.

Modding Existing CIvs: https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Modding#Modifying_the_vanilla_objects

DISCLAIMER: I am not a modder at all and I have not tried this; I have a basic theoretical understanding of RAW editing only.

Amelio nailed it... This mod would be cool if it could keep the pops down

Have you tried exploring these animal men civs as an adventurer? I tried approaching what i assumed was an elephant man hillock(the only location directly south of me, there was nothing else around so im sure this was an elephant man hillock) and i had to exit travel mode quite far from the location because it wouldnt let me get nearer, and then my fps dropped to essentially 1 once i loaded in. No idea why. Maybe the population is too high? Or maybe its the mass and size of the elephant men needing more resources to calculate with every move?

Could you add frog people to this?

To reduce civilization spawn rate: go to your Dwarf Fortress installation folder, data\installed_mods, look into simple_animal_people folder objects\entity_dedsanimals.txt. Reduce MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER. I changed it from 10 to 7.

Game crash when caravan arrived

Hello ! Do you think you will ever add platypus men to your mod ? It would be really fun, and I can't do it myself, it won't work.

Looks like these spawn in such high numbers that the block out vanilla civs and other modded civs (ratfolk/drow mods etc). I would suggest toning the spawn rate down quite a bit.

Excellent idea for a mod. Love it