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Chair Superkick

Still only one success out of 20... I'm not a move creator so I can't even look at it to try to help find the issue. I took one look at that creation suite and my eyes glazed over like I was a Tim Horton's donut place. I have no idea what is going on with that....

I dunno, I always play with no DQ/rope break and stuff as well. Pretty much any illegal move can be used just fine, it's just these ones I'm having trouble with. I'll try them again, since it looks like you have updated them.

I tried a match with all DQ options off, my test dude with all 3 chair moves on him and average stats vs a bear with crazy high stats, and hit all 3 within the first 4 minutes, so iono what's going on with them with you, but I did change the counter % from "throw - finisher (opp must be tired)" to "throw - finisher"

There it is, it worked with the referee up. Two successes out of about 40-50 attempts. Can you change that?

Well, I hit the referee (It's next to f'ing impossible when you WANT to, but one Irish Whip and bang, down they go...)

The move happened once out of the four times I managed to try it before the referee got up. If it IS just being countered, it must have a sky high counter chance or something.

Yeah, it's definitely not just being reversed. I've 100% killed an opponent and the Chair Punch is still just having the "Chair Illusion with an awake referee" ending, every single time. It can't be getting reversed that often at that point in the match.

it happens every time, instead of doing the move my character goes into the "Ref, he hit me!" pleading thing for a moment before it just ends the way Chair Illusion does when the ref is looking. I knocked down the ref and did the move, and it worked just fine. It *could* be a coincidence... but it'd have to be a pretty huge coincidence. I'll play around with it some and report back shortly.

Nope, that's not it. Is the opponent just catching the chair, then throwing it away after the attacker does their "oh nooo" thing for a second? If so, that's the counter animation and it's just being reversed

Oh whoops, there's probably some Chair's Illusion setting I forgot to change

If DQ's are turned off, why does this move not work if the referee is conscious? He throws the chair to the opponent but then pantomimes being hit with it instead and the move doesn't come out. Same with the Chair Punch version. No move, just "oh no he hit me". As soon as I knock down the ref though, it works.