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Cataph's Formed Defence [obsolete, implemented by CA]
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Cataph's Formed Defence [obsolete, implemented by CA]

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===AS PER PATCH 1.3===
Current changes to spacing make vanilla formation attack perform better than unformed (unformed has a 15%ish advantage in damage dealt but takes 20%ish more casualties).
Currently I do not advice using the mod as it's redundant. We'll see how things progress with time.
===end transmission===


Formation attack used by Cathay units adds a hidden +10 MD
(hidden not by choice, don't @ me).
Why: Formation Attack statistically makes the unit perform worse, not better. The buff attempts to fight that. Also edits the button's tooltip to provide more accurate information.


The presumably unintended behaviour of formation attack is that while your entities take pains to stay in pretty spacing:
- they won't move in or wrap around to attack, thus dealing less damage overall
- they get plinked one by one by attackers, thus actually taking more losses, to the point they even break sooner

These two issues together, on average, make formation attack actually a liability.

The +10MD makes formed units more solid while compensating for the 1v1 plinking. On average, they will now defend better but attack worse than while disabling the formation, so the choice is there. Also, the AI doesn't get shafted by default since they won't disable it. Unformed vs formed duel is now a fair deal rather than the former basically always winning.
Note: I can't do other stats. Don't ask.



You can see Enticity highlight unintended performance here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_IpVi6KRn4


Compatibility: yes, even with modded units.



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Cataph  [作者] 2022 年 10 月 21 日 上午 12:28 
no, you can either follow my blog or discord for info
rossdaley 2022 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:23 
hey cataph, sorry to be that guy, but i was wondering if there was an eta on the kraka drak mod, and southern realms mod ?
Darkwolf 2022 年 9 月 21 日 上午 1:46 
@Cataph,

Hey man, any update on your Kraka Drak mod? i remember is being released for WH3, then it just disappeared from the workshop.
Solaire 2022 年 6 月 30 日 下午 12:02 
Keep up the good work king
Cataph  [作者] 2022 年 4 月 9 日 上午 10:09 
will apply to anything that has formation attack attribute
LemurKing 2022 年 4 月 6 日 下午 1:23 
Will this affect modded Cathay units as well?
Nero Sima 2022 年 4 月 6 日 上午 7:53 
Thanks for make shit formation in a good formation
𝓓𝓮𝓮𝓻2四 2022 年 4 月 6 日 上午 5:47 
very useful, thanku
HungryBat 2022 年 4 月 6 日 上午 4:03 
So youre saying with this mod npn formation peasants perform the same against peasants in formation?
Cataph  [作者] 2022 年 4 月 5 日 下午 11:42 
@kangaroo
Nah. They don't even hold for longer, they rout slightly faster than nonformed, on average.

@stop reading
powercreep the game? I had to slap something like +7MD on it just so formation attack stopped being a net negative for you. Without the mod, you can just disable formattack on your cathayan units vs cathay AI to basically always win duels.