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Authoritative Guide to Building Conversion costs thread
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Conversion costs should be much cheaper in the game due the the limited space to build and the fact that one is essentially making a minor modification to a structure or set of structures to serve a different function.

Unfortunately, several mods have their values backwards.
The examples in this mods have been researched and tested.
You can add this as a submod, but the real point is to be a reference for modders.

Follow the example of Data and experienced modders please instead of discouraging players!

The values herein are approximate and I would appreciate feedback on their actual effects.
For example, I have yet to see a mod use the building_min_conversion_cost in cv. I found that it doesn't do anything noticeable until it is well above 300. I set it at 555 and it appears to give me a 50% discount on conversions.

Does -50% att_effect_building_conversion_cost_mod reduce the price of conversion 50% or less as I expect?
Does +100% att_backend_main_building_conversion_cost_mod not cause any change as I expect or is it better than 0%?
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Sheph  [作者] 2018 年 7 月 28 日 下午 7:42 
It turns out we are acting on two kinds of "conversion" cost:
1) Intercultural conversion which occurs when you change over a building from one culture to another
2) Intracultural conversion as in att_effect_building_conversion_cost_mod
I think both are overpriced in Vanilla and encourage the use of these variables.
At the very least reduce 1. As it is it is cheaper to sack or burn down a level than to convert a building.
The building_min_conversion_cost in cvariables is actually not a factor in a complex formula. If you reduce the conversion costs of buildings in the range of -65 or so, you will hit this variable which serves as a floor. In my tests, all tier 1 and 2 buildings, regardless of culture, cost this much to change to another version once all conversion costs had dropped low enough.
Greq7 2018 年 6 月 30 日 上午 9:03 
Steam\steamapps\workshop\content you find your new mods in there
Sheph  [作者] 2018 年 6 月 30 日 上午 8:50 
See discussion for news. Does anyone have a better mod-manager loader? I can't seem to get my mod manager to locate this mod in my data directory. I can't upload the new version for you.
Sheph  [作者] 2018 年 6 月 24 日 下午 1:27 
Are you saying you see know difference between -2 backend and -150?
I am not an authority on the backend effect as I haven't used it yet in my mods. I know that Vanilla and other major modders give backend POSITIVE values to decrease conversion cost. for that effect. construction_cost_mod uses negative values.
I am looking for feedback from testing. I will give it a try as well later this week. I
Greq7 2018 年 6 月 24 日 上午 8:03 
Actually I am confused a bit to be honest. I just checked in my mod I only used handicaps and it works. It reduces the cost significantly. example: -2 True att_backend_main_building_conversion_cost_mod faction_to_region_own_unseen -150
. I gave -150 because my buildings are more expensive btw. So what am I missing here if the handicaps are applied and conversion is cheap already?
Greq7 2018 年 6 月 23 日 下午 6:10 
It seems like you found a way to do this properly. Very soon I will probably have to tweak some in my overhaul :) thank you