引用自 Finale：

Question for folks: when the red lobby opens, where have you seen a stationary guard blocking a door?

It's only the second floor from the red lobby <-> roof. He actually doesn't spawn until the red lobby opens. Like he just magically shows up a few feet inside of the red lobby and just walks towards the doorway and stays there.

I haven't seen any other stationary guards blocking doors. I have however seen a second floor guard just become stationary at some point in time but he's usually out on the roof by the lawn chairs or one of the tables..
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Also, if you manage to go loud in the red hall before opening the door to Sosa's office (like running out of pagers), the first wave of guards spawn right on top of you. They don't run in or drop from anywhere, just *poof* at various spots in the red hall. =(

引用自 Finale：

引用自 revnant：

Wait, you can kill him early then?

It's actually a separately spawned enemy unit, so it's not as if you skip to opening the vault or anything.

Hmm... so you need to kill him a second time if you managed to kill him on the balcony? That seems pretty funny =)

引用自 Finale：

Yes, he can do that from any overlooking balcony, but for reasons that aren't clear, he doesn't always retreat properly, and he is mortal.

Wait, you can kill him early then?

引用自 Finale：

Ernesto Sosa's got some harass behavior coded in; the details of how it's supposed to work aren't clear, but in practice it's quite bugged.

Hmmm... I think I randomly saw him out on a balcony shooting at me (and then at the cops when I was out of his sight).

引用自 Finale：

Thanks for the patrol details, they confirm what I'm seeing in the script. I need to pull out and write out the different difficulty permutations for them.

引用自 revnant：

Do you know what needed fixing for those stealth reinforcements which might have prompted them to remove it?

Guards in the reinforcement group would act as if they were in loud gameplay- running, with guns drawn, to each patrol location, then snapping into an idle animation, before running to the next location.

Ah, I see. I normally don't get around to bumping into them. However, I would like to add that if the laptop is in the left shed (not the spacious one near the water), then those reinforcements can notice the hack and call the police. The other external guards that walk by there will not think the hack is suspicious; only these reinforcements (if they see it).

Here are some notes that I had regarding inside guards that have pagers:

- there seem to be about 4 guards on the first floor that only roam the first floor
- there seem to be about 2 guards on the second floor that only roam the second floor and the roof
- there seems to be 1 guard that can roam between the first floor and second floor and even to the red hall area (consider taking this guy out as he can pop in on you unexpectedly in the worst spots)
- there is 1 guard that spawns once you finish the phone call successfully. He spawns just inside the red hall on the second floor and he walks into the doorway between the roof and the red hall
- there are 2 guards in the red hall area that only roam in the red hall area
- there are also 2 guards in the right side stair case area.

引用自 Finale：

Thanks Unknown Knight. It does look like they were removed, rather than spend resources on fixing them. I didn't see any references to them in the script file either, though I'm really bad at reading it. The van for them still gets loaded in, I think.

Do you know what needed fixing for those stealth reinforcements which might have prompted them to remove it?

Possible phone locations:
- 2 in the bedroom (2nd floor)
- 1 in the red room with the fire place (1st floor)
- 1 in the green room with the bookshelves (1st floor)
- 1 on the dining room table (1st floor)

I don't think I saw any others...


Don't forget escapes / loot secure spots:
Stealth has 2 possible:
- boat
- van that arrives just outside the main entrance of the estate / far right corner

Loud has 3 possible:
- boat
- van that arrives just outside the main entrance of the estate / far right corner
- van that crashes through the wall near the spawn point (at the bottom most area of the map)

引用自 Finale：

That's really weird, I'm wondering when it was added. I'll check out when and where those spawn at some point.

I think it was added as part of Update 109.1 (the new difficulties). I was stealthing even on Update 108 and I very rarely saw that many guards (usually it was 6 - 7 guards and 1, 2, or 3 FBI guys)

I think you might be partially correct, but it seems like they might have added 2 more guards on Mayhem and above in FIrestarter Day 2. According to Frankelster's mission dumps:


Was a new element that seems to be there compared to the April 2016 (Update 97.3?) dumps...