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jshackles 2015 年 10 月 27 日 下午 7:26
Valve's card drop algorithm may have changed (again)
It appears that games which are ineligible for Steam refunds (aka purchased off-site) no longer have a 2 hour idling requirement in the most recent server changes Valve pushed out a few hours ago. I'm hoping you guys can help shed some light on this and help me either confirm or deny this theory.

In the mean time, it might be a good idea to change Idle Master over to idle games individually (not in a batch) and let me know if you get card drops for a game before the 2 hour mark. If so, let me know if the game you were idling was purchased on Steam or purchased somewhere else.

No matter what the changes are, I'll try to update Idle Master once again to reflect these changes and attempt to make idling as efficient as possible again under the new guidelines.

Thanks!
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Ramsickle 2015 年 10 月 27 日 下午 9:56 
Seems to be not limited to purchased off of Steam only, I idled a game I purchased directly from Steam on the 25th which I launched today and it started dropping at 0.2 hours as well.

2 games redeemed via key tested as well with same result.

If you want to look over my profile and inventory the game I purchased from Steam itself that was dropping before 2 hours was 12 Labours of Hercules II: The Cretan Bull.
最后由 Ramsickle 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 27 日 下午 9:58
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Ramsickle 2015 年 10 月 27 日 下午 10:11 
Just tested another game I bought directly from Steam, Gravilon, it also dropped first card at 0.2 hours.

Is it possible the 2 hour restriction is completely lifted? So far every game I've tested has started dropping at 0.2 hours.
最后由 Ramsickle 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 27 日 下午 10:12
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jshackles 2015 年 10 月 27 日 下午 10:16 
It certainly seems like that's the case. I've been doing some testing of my own and have come up with the same result. I'll do some more testing (and hopefully others will chime in with their experiences) but that's great news if that's the case.

Either way, I would recommend Idle Master be set to idle games individually in the settings - along with your preferred order - for best results.
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Ramsickle 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 2:00 
Same result for about 5 games now.

Some people have interesting theories on my reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/3qicjc/2_hours_for_card_drops_removed_for_some_games/

Although no one else there has confirmed testing it themselves or not yet except one who it didn't work for but seems he tried before I noticed the change and was idling multiple games so that obviously impacts it as well.

Edit: one person it took 2 hours, awaiting more details for that one. Game was Divinity Original Sin, the one you're doing now.
最后由 Ramsickle 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 3:14
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Madjoki 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 3:15 
引用自 Misha：
i wonder hows it with games you get as a gift from someone else. refunding that is also pretty much impossible.

Gifts can be refunded like everything else, but only if receiver agrees to.
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Ramsickle 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 3:17 
引用自 Madjoki：
引用自 Misha：
i wonder hows it with games you get as a gift from someone else. refunding that is also pretty much impossible.

Gifts can be refunded like everything else, but only if receiver agrees to.
This is true, it's an option that can be checked within the support / refund area for the game.
最后由 Ramsickle 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 3:21
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- M4N0L1N - 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 4:17 
Nice thread. I came here to know more about this change. I had the same thing with a game bought in another site. It dropped with 0.2. Didn't test yet with a game from Steam.
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Eren 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 6:06 
If this is true, please publish a update with 2 options. "2 hours mode" and "non 2 hours mode". 2 hours mode is same. none 2 hours mode will make it play only one game at a time like old times.
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Glimmer 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 6:24 
引用自 Cowsep：
If this is true, please publish a update with 2 options. "2 hours mode" and "non 2 hours mode". 2 hours mode is same. none 2 hours mode will make it play only one game at a time like old times.
It already does, JShackles even mentioned it in the starting post.
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hebroid 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 7:29 
LUP: 1 card in 23 minutes, Steam Store, first launch
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MakoSipper 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 7:31 
Is this why it now ignores the "idle all games to 2 hours first, then individually" option? Or does it do that because I have one game which is already over 2h and one that has 0h (regardless of the option I choose, it idles the one that's over 2h)?
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jshackles 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 7:34 
@Mako: It will currently only idle multiple games up to the 2h mark if you have more than 1 game that meets this criteria. Otherwise it will order them according to your settings (alphabetical, by value, by card drops) as it won't save any time pre-idling just the one game.
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MakoSipper 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 7:44 
I know it won't save time if you're just idling, buuuut it's useful (or was, now, if those changes are not a mistake) to get the 2h while you're actually playing a game on Steam. Before this new update, I used to skip games with over 2h (and then not on the previous update, because of that bug that has been fixed ;) )
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Ramsickle 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 7:46 
Seems so far majority are getting drops before 2 hours regardless of where the game came from.

Ones who aren't getting drops beforehand I've yet to find a common factor but still trying.
最后由 Ramsickle 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 7:47
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hebroid 2015 年 10 月 28 日 上午 8:02 
Lift It: 1 card in 20 minutes, bundle key, first launch
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