heres a few *really bad* slug shotgun ideas but first a basis for a slug shotty compared to the normal shotty so here we go!

general slugger (if wanted avalible for all shotgun weilding classes)

+100% accuracey
+no bloom
+headshots deal minicrits
+no damage ramp down

+/- base damage is 50

-no damage ramp up
-33% ammo reserves (24 shots in reserve)
-50% clip size (3 shots in the tube)

and all of these shotties have this base set of stats at their base unless stated otherwise
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okay so for soldier

patriots practitioner

+headshots load one rocket back into your primary
+25% faster deploy/holdstering

-headshots don't minicrit (but do play a rocket loading sound)
-20% fire rate
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pryo

lizards lick

+on headshots: gas ignite people up to medium range
+on headshots on flaming targets: cause large 25 damage explosions

-40% damage
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heavy

soviet solkov

+headshot kills increase rate of fire up to +75% (5 kills 15% per kill)

-2 base damage per headshot kill
+25% slower holdster/deploy time
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engi

(fyi this is a partially rebalenced rehash of an old idea i posted)

sentry slugger

+on hit, while near your sentry: your sentry targets who ever you hit IF it's in your sentries radius

-25% fire rate

supirior stim: spy injection watch

while active:
up to +100% movement speed while active (it ramps up as the watch runs out

-when cloak runs out you start losing your max health rapidly instead of decloak

probably OP as crap but it's just a basic idea.

more (probably) really shit weapons!

the burst cannon: pyro primary fireball launcher

+on hit: the next shot has +50% repreasurization rate
+on burning player hit: cause a explosion (about the size of a rocket) that ignites enemies
+the explosion deals 10 extra damage and can ignite other enemies

-99% afterburn damage
-20% damage

the pop shot: secondary explosive flare gun

+on burning enemy hit: spawns other flares in the direction that the inital flare hit from
+40% projectile speed

-33% damage

the explosive finale: melee weapon

up to +20% damage on burning player hit based on how low their hp is
+that damage is dealt in an EXPLOSION!

-you get hit by 50% of the explosions damage
-deals up to -100% damage based on how much hp the enemy has.

heres some broke back pack ideas

the king: heavy secondary back pack

+grants up to +5hp regen on all nearby allies, and yourself while spun up
+grants 10% damage reduction to ONLY to your allies
+10% movement speed
+10% primary and melee damage

-50% max overheal
+100% headshot vunrability
-50% heal rate from all external sources
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all in: scout secondary back pack

+15% accuracey on your primary
+25% faster reload on your primary
+10% fire rate on primary
+50% max primary ammo on wearer

-no melee
-25% healing from all sources

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the marksman: sniper back pack

+50% damage on uncharged primary shot (this includes unscoped shots)
+25% faster reload speed on primary weapon
+25% faster fire rate on both melee and primary weapon

+25% melee vunrability
+25% explosive vunrability

+30% explosion resistance
+10% bullet resistance

-20% knockback resistance, airblast or splash damage easily
Breaks after three explosive hits
Can only be refilled by resupply from closet
Can still be backstabbed [/quote]
why do you think the darwin was nerfed to remove the bullet resistance?

easy because it had both the max HP boost AND the bullet resist to stop quick scope happy rifle snipers. it wasn't just the bullet resist my friend. and 10% is 135 quick scope damage. you still die like a bitch.

the critical crush : all class consumable

on consumption:

+100% melee range
+permantly critically charged until you swap off melee

-lose all but 1 hp
-50% healing from all sources while active

high cal killer : sniper primary

on head shot : +15% base damage per head collected

-25 hp whenever you fire this damn thing (the fucking recoil stings!)

the potispenser: heavy back pack

+while primary is reved up: heal and refill everyones ammo who is close to you at the same rate as a lvl 3 dispenser
+immune to crits

-150 max health
-100% overheal
-you are not affected by the backpack

heres some ideas for a turtle engi set (even though panic, short, and eurika cover this aspect in unisen)

einstiens folly: primary rifle

+fires (high velosity) eletric bolts that:
remove sappers at range
force spies out of a cloak
only at extremely close range: predeatonates any explosive (DOES NOT DELETE THEM)

+/-each bolt deals a set 50 damage at all ranges

-30% fire rate
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star of the tortus: secondary engi back pack

+all buildings near you gain +3 hp back while you're near them (2 ticks a second)
+25% metal received from dispensers
+up to 2hp regained per second

+15% explosive vunrability

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mechanical frenzy: engi wrench

+20% repair rate per sentry kill

-15% swing rate per sentry kill
-uses the full metal cost of the building repair

both are capped at 5 for obvious reasons
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the fortress: engi PDA

+15% building max health

-25% heal rate from all sources except your dispenser

here's some more bad ideas!

artilary crusher: grenade launcher

+holding fire allows you to charge your next shot granting:
up to +100% blast radius
up to +150% building damage
+20% reload speed

-75% damage to players when firing below 50% charge
-75% clip size
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nova driver: minigun

+on kill: gain a stack of "light" (up to 5)
each stack of "light" grants:
+5% fire rate
+10% spin up time
+4% damage resistance while spun up

-50% ammo from all sources
-20% damage
-damage resistance does not include melee
-your gun glows brighter for each stack of "light"

heres a old set of referbished ideas for pyro weapons which is still probably shit

solar scortcher: primary flame thrower

+50% direct damage
+50% larger air blast radius
+air blast now ignites enemies for 4 seconds
+reflected projectiles explode shortly after

-75% after burn damage
+150% air cost (50)
+20% increase ammo consumption rate

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super nova: flare gun (explosive)

+on direct flaming player hit: +100% blast radius and chain explode

-per chained explosion: -10% blast radius
-33% damage

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burn up: shotgun (hitscan)

+on burning team mate hit: gain one stack of "sun shot" (up to ten and lose all on death) and extinguish them
+ for each stack of "sun shot" :
+15% accuracey
+10% bullets
+1 second to after burn on primary weapon

-33% damage
-no hp gained on extinguish
-60% accuracey
-90 clip size
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hydrogen fuser: melee

while active:
+50% damage
+20% damage returned as health

-while drawn: YOU ARE PERMANTLY ON FIRE
-all crits are mini crits

here's a really bad idea for a spy set

danger closer: revolver

+for every enemy killed with the revolver or none backstab knife, store one explosive bullet (maped to special attack similar to medi-sheild and 50% the size of a rocket explosion)
+no damage fall off

+/-ambasitor accuracey gain/loss mechanic

-40% fire rate
-50% reserve ammo
-all crits are now mini crits.

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one for all: sapper

+for each unit being sapped gain +10% sapper damage

-50% health
- 40% of ANY WEAPONS damage will hit this (meaning anything can take it off, not just a wrench, any team mate can as well)

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the final touch: knife

+after a backstab the corpse deatonates after a few seconds (hits as hard asa rocket with the 80% of the blast radius)

-releases a beeping sound from the corpse
+50% damage vunrability to your own bombs
-20% swing rate

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the impatiant mans time piece: cloaking watch

+when uncloaking release an explosion (30 damage with 50% of a rockets blast radius)
+25% cloak recharge rate

-you take 30 damage each time you cloak (you can kill yourself)
-does not recharge while invivsible (unlike cloak and dagger)

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and just for giggles heres a couple idea for engi shotties

the texas takedown: shotgun

+100% accuracey
+900% damage (this is technically a damage down)
+on hit: force your sentry to target that player until out of range or dead

-90% pellots
-20% sentry fire rate while active

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lonely ranger: double barrel shotgun

+30% accuracey
+33% damage ramp up (aka 200% damage ramp up at point blank)
+dealing damage increases a rage guage (alt fire to activate requires 450 damage from your gun to trigger) while active lasts for 8 seconds and grants:
+75% reload speed
+20% bullet damage resist
+40% explosive damage resist
+50% fire damage resist

-each shell is still reloaded individually
-66% clip size
-25% sentry damage
-25% dispenser healing
-25% teleporter recharge rate

appologies for this one having so many stats, but the "selfish lonely engi" is hard to do when you don't have a bottemless clip and bonus damage on whatever poor sap is getting a mini sentry to the head.